sidenote, are memes allowed? it doesn’t say anything about them not being allowed, but I don’t see anybody posting any 🤷♀️
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They’ll never know the magic (read: virus minefield) that was WinMX, Kazaa, Limewire, etc.
Or the even worse era of trolling IRC chats looking for DCC bots and hoping your feeble attempts at security or obfuscation will hold. Ah, the good ol days.
Warez websites with 9/10 links broken ftw
xdcc msg MoViEgOdz! get pack
*starts downloading hardcore goat sex*
"Ah shit, I meant 127”
xdcc msg MoViEgOdz! cancel 128
*goat sex downloads even faster*
“…well, at least it’ll be educational”Wouldst thou like to live deliciously?
Grab list, found what you wanted… As 49 separate downloads, on one busy bot.
While on dialup.
Admittedly, the small file chunks made sense on dialup, but man did it suck when you’d end up with 102 of 110 files and then they’d vanish.
Oh definitely, but wow did it suck when they went offline… You just keep those parts around unless you can find another bot to start and complete a whole other download of different sized split rars…
I’ve never heard of this before. I was on IRC in the oughts, probably a bit late to see it happening. Neat.
By that point there were other options that were more popular, yeah. Xdcc as a script for ircii came out around 1995ish, maybe a bit earlier. Early 2000s would be around when mirc scripts had xdcc bots built in, so well after they first became common.
At that point you also had Napster, kazaa, limewire, even the first bittorrent client (BitTorrent).
Just do it now. Only like 8 other people are using DCC, so it’s obfuscation in itself
Ah limewhire where you went to download ripped halo 3 roms and ended up with a few GB of amature porn
my favorite was the Madonna song that was just Madonna saying “What the fuck do you think you’re doing?” over and over again for three minutes, and then someone made a dance remix of it and uploaded it again
Ah, and there I was, trying to download horse porn and ending up with Halo 3 😅
Soulseek was the best
Was
Is.* Nicotine+ is the client to make it even better.
*is
I was born after 2000, and use soulseek to this day.
I reinstalled Windows like every other week 😅
Can I finger your plastron?
I’ve watched so much free anime by being bisexual
Speak for urselves lul (I dk how to seed tho)
Just let the torrent keep going after you’re done
Tried that but for some reason it doesn’t seed :3
If you don’t have a port forwarded for your torrent client, then only the people that do will be able to download from you. Unfortunately, most VPN providers don’t support port forwarding.
PIA does
As does Proton VPN.
And AirVPN. They also have the most stable servers in my experience. With other providers I need to change the wireguard config I use for my qbittorrent docker every few months because they get painfully slow, with AirVPN the same server stays usable forever in my experience
TorGuard VPN also works somewhat fine in my experience, even if setting up port forwarding with custom wireguard config is a bit complicated there, but they frequently have insanely good sales, and if you buy a plan on sale you can renew it for the sale price after it ends, instead of having to renew for full price or having to wait for the next sale
I am not sure if I would trust either of these providers if I was doing something really illegal and trying to hide from the government \ law enforcement, but for something like torrenting they should provide more than enough protection against copyright notices
If you move or delete the files it would break it
Yeah I could guess that, but no just sitting around it either doesn’t upload anything or uploads and absurdly small amount (less than 50mb)
Probably an issue with connecting to peers or trackers. One common issue is not having the port forwarded properly at your router.
Yeah I see the same thing and I self host a seedbox that has hundreds of seeding torrents. Some torrents do get some seeding action but most never upload anything. Never figured out why but some private trackers give you points towards your up/down ratio the longer you seed so I just roll with that ¯\(ツ)/¯
Solution: use Linux and hardlinks
That means you either have a shit isp or a misconfigured router.
make sure your torrent client is bound to your VPN interface before seeding also :)
Depends on the country tho, in some countries you will not have legal issues
true true
Two things. 1. Already mentioned, you need to be connectable. Torrent client port needs opened on router admin panel. 2. You can only seed if there is another user(s) actively downloading that data. And if you’re 1 of many seeders, you’re only uploading a little bit
Theres a lot more to it but thats a good high level overview
I don’t know if this meme is fully ironic, but kind of strange to think “torrenting” is considered the OG piracy method now.
For me personally, the OG pirating was buying bootleg VHSs/CDs/DVDs. But torrenting/P2P was the first mass scale digital piracy method.
torrenting/P2P was the first mass scale digital piracy method.
IRC? Napster? Edonkey? Emule? Kademlia?
And, hell, before that there was that guy in class who for five bucks would burn you a CD with any game you wanted, which he probably got off usenet…
And of course for music there was the old double deck cassette copier…
(Personally the first software crack I remember was dismantling Monkey Island’s “dial a pirate” wheel so I could photocopy it to share with friends after copying the diskettes…)
I remember those copy protections. Go to page 6, line 42, word 3
Damn, I miss when games came with manuals… the anticipation when reading them while coming back home from the store…
Test Drive 3 had a pretty complicated wheel.
Your list is compromised primarily of P2P networks and a DHT?
Older methods still best methods.
It’s old but it’s not even close to the OG. I believe the OG is newsgroups, and after that was p2p file sharing apps like limewire and napster, and only then did torrenting become a big thing
I’m gonna ignore non internet based methods. Here is the evolution imo
- BBS
- Usenet & warez websites
- Server client setups (Hotline etc)
- P2P without resuming (Napster etc)
- P2P W/resume & multiple sources (Kazaa, LimeWire etc)
- Torrents
- Streaming torrents
- Usenet
Edit: I’m seeing IRC a lot, not sure where it fits in this list. Assume it’s around no 2.
This is the correct list, having lived through it. BBS services in the mid-1980s were the start of Razor1911, Paradox and other distro and cracker groups. I’d edit 2 to include FTP which is what BBS evolved into with secret dropsites for new releases.
IRC is 2.5 on this list. You can group that alongside the pre-web internet services, like AOL which had slightly IRC-like chat rooms dedicated to serving warez and videos in the same way (requesting a list from a chatbot, and then requesting sequential files).
Some light history here, though like all warez-related scholarship, there’s a ton missing that you had to have seen to know:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_scene
https://archive.org/details/b904a8eb-9c98-4bb1-bf25-3cb9d075b157/
Great list! And according to your list I’m right. BBSes aren’t internet, and usenet is a synonym for newsgroups
Those were the times when my ISP, which was owned 100% by the city, had it’s own newsgroups server full of warez lol
Original method wasn’t FTP?
Yeah, I imagine to younger folks it feels like what usenet felt like to me when I was their age. Mystical land of unknown loot, if you know how to get there
It does feel like zoomies and kids in general have lost a lot of technical knowledge when it comes to computers.
We’re doomed to help our parents AND our kids.
cries in millennial
most yes, some no. Some are fucking geniuses
also, my blame is 1000% on the schools. They lock down computers so much the button to make a FOLDER was disabled… in highschool
Not to mention XDCC over IRC
I actually maintain my own xdcc download client
They can’t even eat Hot Chip? 🤯
in this economy?
be me
born in 2005
used to use steam unlocked
torrent
is bisexual
the meme is partly correct i guess :3
TIL those born in 2005 are 20 now.
Well, not “learned,” but you know what I mean. I feel old :(
I feel you, my Steam account turned 20 this month!
:3
I personally just check the db0 megathread and torrent from there, sometimes I watch online because I cant be bothered to download tho
You can stream popular torrents. It can be challenging with more niche content (unless you’re on private trackers), but you’re not going to find niche content streams in the first place.
It’s wrong, but also, it’s right a surprisingly good amount of the time.
Hey now, I’m younger than that and I know how to do both things lol
Wait, is torrenting actually dying out?
i kid you not my roommate watched a movie someone posted on Twitter
Nah, not until all of the GenXers and Xennials die out at least
It’s still somewhat big in certain regions, even younger people torrent (although streaming piracy is more popular).
Not sure of statistics. But imo judging by the picture of media as of today, torrenting is either growing or changing into usenet.
Let them be the fodder for the authorities
It’s the other way around, torrents are monitored, downloads on webpages are not (unless they use P2P streaming)
The big difference is that with torrents you also upload data to other peers, which is what fucks you copyright-wise.
Also remember kids, if you’re not in the US throw those DMCA claims in the trash
If you’re in the EU, downloading without uploading is also illegal, just hard to track for the copyright firms.
Maybe for public trackers, I’ve never had an issue on private trackers. But pirate streaming sites are taken down fairly frequently
the magic word here is “HTTPS”. Prior to encrypted downloads being the norm, it was trivial for your ISP (and presumably, the feds) to see what sites you were visiting and what you downloaded from them. With HTTPS, at best it’s possible to know what site you’re communicating with and how much data you’ve sent to and received from them, but not what the data actually is. (Unless of course the site’s logs get seized, which could contain records of which files were requested by which IP addresses)
2001 baby here with a home ubuntu server running Plex + Jellyfin, *arr suite, qbittorrent and slskd in docker, and a few TB on my favourite private trackers. I’m an outlier for sure, I don’t know anyone else my age that even knows what 1337x is
actually as a millenial i left the torrenting world when i graduated and got a job back in 2015. Now when i want to return, I realized I am old and don’t know the best places to get good torrents. I searched on one of the websites of tpb last year and nothing came up.
I am rusty and don’t have much time but i am starting to feel the bullshit by streaming companies now and i need to get back on the horse.
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thanks for the deets I have some thing to do for christmas
Qbittorrent and https://wiki.dbzer0.com/piracy/megathread/
thanks for the deets I know what i will do for christmas!
The best site right now (in my lazy opinion) is
qbittorrent is the best client these days. uTorrent went and did some bad stuff that I can’t remember off the top of my head.
You should really get a VPN to keep your isp from bothering you about it. I use Private Internet Access (PIA) because it’s relatively cheap, has port forwarding, and doesn’t store any user data.
That’s the basics. Happy sailing matey. Remember to seed to a ratio of at least 2!
thanks… I guess santa can put me on the naughty list early this christmas cause I got the presents already!
There are quite a few apps on Linux that will let you dl music from streaming sites and keep it if you have a subscription. My personal favourite is qobuz-dl. I have pretty much all of my favourite movies still from way-back-when but usually don’t downloading new ones as 1) streamio with torrentio is so effective and 2) they don’t make 'em like they used to.
iptorrents, it’s a bit of a scummy private tracker but you can donate a few bucks to get in and they have pretty much everything. It’s a good first in for private trackers. Keep in mind with private trackers, you typically need to seed whatever you download for at least 14 days.
TBH I was in the same boat, and finally went usenet when they rised the prices for all that streaming shit across the board, once again. Took me one afternoon to figure out.
I’d like to torrent, it’s morally more piratey, as in “if I pirate already, then it should be totally free”, but the usenet experience just is so much cleaner. And now I still pay, but like 30ish € per year and have no headache anymore and basically all the streaming services at my fingertips.
