Get your shortnames while the getting’s good.
Lol. It’d be hilarious if this succeeded. It was so dumb of Musk to change the name.
Most of what musk does is dumb.
Most? Can anyone name anything smart he’s done in years?
Finally deleted she who shall not be named from my address book.
Do I win?
Most of what musk does is dumb.
People are dumber than him though, for example there are plenty of idiots here who share content from his platforms
I used to be surprised at how stupid billionaires can be. But, then I remembered they don’t actually do anything where they work, and the real employees run behind them and clean up their messes. When they stick their fingers in the works, they fuck it up, Cybertruck being one example.
Third generation curse.
I personally believe the cybertruck was a designer who was making fun of musk. He submitted a pinewood derby car he made when he was 7.
Its the literal emperors new clothes.
Why? You don’t find it convenient to say “X, formerly Twitter”? I think it just rolls off the tongue! /s
If not decentralized, it’s a no go…
I hope this takes off and people start using “tweet” and “twitter” again and it makes “x” completely irrelevant like his Hitler salute should have
Edit: it cost $20 to join?! I’m out
Edit: it cost $20 to join?! I’m out
Well, they need something to pay the lawyers with once Musk takes notice.
Edit: I’ve just discovered this interesting concept called “reading the article” and found out that they’ve already been sued, though it’s still not entirely settled.
I’ve just discovered this interesting concept called “reading the article”
Spread the word my brother! You’ve got to let everyone know about this new fad!
I read it but honestly, probably 80% of the time I do not. Because articles are very often full of pop ups and ads and tracking and paywalls, and are unnecessarily verbose (most can be summarized in 1-2 sentences), and are just republishing someone else’s work while adding nothing, and simultaneously devoid of useful information or any actual sources.
Some of that can be solved with Firefox and unblock.
100% can be solved by knowingly making a glaringly obviously false claim about the topic and someone will correct you in a dickish tone while citing the article
Your grandad’s AI summary, if you will.
I’ve seen AI summaries that looked like the AI had not read the article.
Works for me 😏
I’ve just discovered this interesting concept called “reading the article”
What dark magic is this
I’ve just discovered this interesting concept called “reading the article”
This is liberal propaganda FAKE NEWS
Edit: I’ve just discovered this interesting concept called “reading the article”
Jokes aside: I think it’s great that you read the article, then went back to both acknowledge that it covered your point and admit that you didn’t before.
I’ve just discovered this interesting concept called “reading the article”
Wait. Is that allowed?
How do I learn this power?
This here is an excellent guide:
vibe coded slop asking for $20 bucks to sign up… i think I’m okay
That site was blocked by spectrum when I tried it
Lol
Oh fuck this is embarrassing
Probably a pre-emptive block to stop scam sites from using domain that are similar.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen that many em dashes ever. Not even in the most copy/paste AI slop wall of text. Holy moly.
Wow you were not kidding. Some of them are extra awkward and unnatural too, it’s almost a parody of what slop text looks like.
We believe people should have more control over what they see — and more transparency about the information in front of them.
An early illustration of the idea — you decide how much low-trust noise reaches your feed:
You can’t pay me enough to click on that link.
Edit: it cost $20 to join?! I’m out
They probably need the money to pay for their AI-based “fact-checking”:
A new and notable feature is the automated fact-checking tool, a Gemini-based “veracity engine for real-time analysis” (“Vera” for short), which runs on every tweet.
Using a technology that’s known for making shit up, for fact-checking, is so dumb, but it will probably bring in investors because AI.
Do they expect everything posted to be just news and information that can be fact-checked? Is this AI going to fact-check my opinions and shitposts too?
The homepage feels like AI slop too.
“I just watched movie. It sucked!”
“Beep boop. According to trustworthy, verifiable sources, movie does not suck. Sanction : immediate ban.”
AI is very good at classification
Every tweet
Poop emoji - this has been fact checked but can not be independently verified due to lack of context
Edit: it cost $20 to join?! I’m out
…As a “founder”; we’ll see how long that lasts
but til then at least, I’m out too
it cost $20 to join?
Shit, that’s twice as much as it used to cost to join Something Awful, and I bet you don’t even get access to furry porno.
Sounds like a grift.
I’d still be hesitant if they paid me 20$ to join.
people start using “tweet” and “twitter” again
I never stopped
No one else did either
I called it X-twitter. I didn’t really use “tweet” though; mostly because I tend to talk about toots more than tweets.
I tend to talk about my toots after I eat a can of spicy chili beans right out the can
Are we sure it’s not mostly still bots on Twitter? I deleted my account back then and have not been back.
At least, not willingly back, since some people still hyperlink to Twitter directly rather than just sharing screenshots of whatever the content was. So you click the text hyperlink thinking it’s to a web article, only for it to bring you to some random string of tweets visibly displayed in the least logical order.
Oh I’m positive it’s mainly bots and morons on x
Dude reread that post.
“I hope this takes off and makes the Nazi platform irrelevent….but not for $20. I’m okay with Nazis for $20.”
Given that it’s charging an entry fee right now, and is VC backed and corpo controlled…
Probably a fash - or at least neoliberal - app already. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy, no more and no less.
Let them eat eachother.
I’m poor.
Same. I’m not calling you cheap. I’m pointing out that saying $20 to pop a Nazi’s balloon shouldn’t be an offensive ask.
Yeah, everyone is outraged at being a product when using free services, but then also outraged at paid ones.
I’m a bit suspicious of how they want to implement scoring, I feel like it’s either going to be gamed by users or rigged by owners, but otherwise it looks fine as an idea and as a replacement for xitter
I hope that Mastodon takes off and makes the Nazi platform irrelevant. For free. Independently of corporate and investor goodwill.
$20 isn’t just $20 in most countries around the world.
For some it is more than they can make in a month. Tho those people probably never seen the Internet.
what what term do people use for tweets on shitter now? just “posts”?
x-crete
Xhit
Tweets
- Cash grab on an old name and hoping people pony up the $20 to join it.
- Not using ActivityPub or ATProto.
Yeah, it’s already DOA.
If anyone is serious about creating a new centralised social network these days, they have already lost.
Shame. A new Twitter that supports all the open protocols would have been cool. Fediverse with a name people recognise.
Isn’t that just Mastodon?
Mastodon is not called Twitter, and the vast majority of people have no idea what it is, unfortunately. A Mastodon instance called Twitter would be a great idea, although I think Mastodon doesn’t support all the protocols like Friendica does. But Friendica is too unlike Twitter.
I suppose that could potentially drag Mastodon’s developer into a legal fight (if X were to sue them), which would be costly and a distraction.
Not mastodon devs but the instance owners
I have a feeling that Musk is gonna sue who he’s gonna sue.
Mh yeah you are quite right i guess, he’s dumb and rich
It may well be intended as a serious attempt but personally I’m just going to view it as trolling/a gimmick, in which case I don’t care how shit the actual platform is. Seems to be more about making a point against Musk than getting a serious userbase.
Somewhere in there is step 3: profit
I want to start a business that fleeces these rubes, how does an average man break into the bullshit game
and the sign up doesn’t even work, just 404s
Oh lol. It must have been because their firebase tokens were exposed and people were able to get around the waitlist/payment and sign up for an account.
Take a look: https://x.com/Patrosi73/status/2093079851393524087 (I would link to Xcancel/Nitter… but space karen decided to wig out)
Would be funny if Twitter/X Supports ATProto. Maybe also don’t give up the X Brand and you could interact with Bluesky users or twitter or X Handles and if you Bridge to the Fediverse yeah that works to. I could really delete my x/Twitter Profile and say. Hey My new Handle is my bridged Mastodon Account.
So, I’m just checking…
- It is not open source?
- It uses AI to “Fact-Check”?
- It costs 20$ to join, and possibly more later?
Well, they have chosen interesting path those people behind this thing.
This will never amount to more than a cash grab.
Sadly, true.
If only it was just a Mastodon instance (was thinking about creating “Twatter”, as a joke).
sounds like Shitler himself launched the “new site” for some extra money grabbing.
Yeah i’il keep using mastodon and bluesky, also, they already have investors so it’s dead at birth for me
Bluesky is also owned by a corporation and, like Twitter, could sell to a fascist billionaire whenever they find it profitable to do so.
X vs Bluesky is a great microcosm of American team-sports politics. Mastodon is something actually new.
Yeah that’s true but perfect is the enemy of good, Mastodon isn’t gaining much traction so my hope is that at least we can get a federated protocol, whatever it is
Perfect is the enemy of good, but so is the desire for convenience.
Mastodon gains less traction because it doesn’t have an advertising budget, unlike Bluesky. Because Bluesky is owned by a corporation.
Is Bluesky federated? I thought it wasn’t. Tumblr also said they were going to, but then just… didn’t.
Bluesky is federated if you have $10,000,000
Yeah it does, though it uses their own protocol (ATprotocol) they open sourced it too
The AT Protocol was open from the start. It’s not the issue and is actually rather clever in parts, in my limited understanding.
The issue has more been that there was no way to run another server than the main one at first, and then that you could but it couldn’t interoperate. I understand this is now something of the past, but I don’t think I’ve ever come across a link to a bluesky post that wasn’t on bsky.app.
Looking a bit into it, it looks like all you need to do is host a Personal Data Server (PDS): https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds?tab=readme-ov-file#self-hosting-a-pds
PDS is just one part of the whole thing. It’s just the place where your data is stored. Almost all other parts of the network are dependent on Bluesky’s stack. Even the alternatives like Blacksky and Eurosky are still dependent of Bluesky’s implementations like the Appview. So if Bluesky goes down, it affects the other services (in some way) too. One can host a PDS for cheap, but if you want a proper social media service (with post history, search etc), it is kind of expensive. There are other appviews, but for some reason Bluesky going down causes issues in Blacksky, Eurosky etc
I did not know that. Thanks for clarifying that part!
then that you could but it couldn’t interoperate
So now you can? I hope so…
Anyway yeah, i never seen someone self host their own instance even though it should be possible
Removed by mod
You look like a mentally ill not them, sorry
Being aware of stuff is a fault?!
Wow it’s been so long since I’ve seen so many faults in one comment.
Do you have someone you can talk to about these feelings? It sounds like you have some repressed feelings in there.
Bro seems to forget the early twitter when writting ts
Yeah but ppl are on bluesky
who needs people when you can talk to leftist nerds ?
Have you met people?
After seeing what happened to Twitter following the purchase, I think anyone who buys Bluesky would be very wary about trashing the brand in the same way.
Don’t just look at the company profits. After Musk bought Twitter, Trump won and Musk gained direct access to the government. I think, that’s a pretty good return on the investment.
But most importantly: Elon now has his own big media company. No longer are the other rich guys ridiculing him because he doesn’t have his own media empire. He’s now a real full member in the club.Do not underestimate the power of capitalism
Unless it’s Larry Ellison, or Elon Musk again, or one of the other many technofascist billionaires with money to burn in pursuit of social engineering.
also, they already have investors so it’s dead at birth for me
Launching with the immediate intent for profit screams either a scam (Especially with Musk being kind to give up the name, massive red flag).
Yeah
Smells like deception. Please come to our “New” site with the same name but this one is totally not uncool or handing all your personal info to Musk.
But spend more money? $8 on that piece of shit “X” site. Fucking joke show.
But you can pay $20 for the premium instantaneous social media aggregate algorithm site! You’ll get all the top paid for profit sponsored posts first before anyone else! Just imagine retweeting your friends minutes before they see this million dollar donated Pepsi ad that is collaborating with Oreo! Whooooaaaaaa! You’ll be the most popular person in your friend group for 15 seconds! But make sure you share first or else you’ll be ostracized by everyone because you didn’t pay an extra $9.99 for ultra fast retweet privilege!
If nothing else we know this project will piss off Elon and that’s always a plus.
2022: Come on, it’s just 8$ it’s basically the price of a coffee.
2026: Come on, it’s just 20$ it’s basically the price of a coffee.
2030: Come on, it’s just 50 bottle caps, it’s basically the price of a coffee.
2050: What’s coffee?
:(
Literally every year since the internet was created: the dollar sign goes before the number, my dude.
Didn’t know since we don’t follow this convention where I’m from.
Shrugs
Every one of these symbols goes before the number: $€£¥₹
Where are you from where it comes after? What currency do you use?
The only time this comes after the number, that I am aware of, is when you use abbreviations like USD or EUR instead of the symbol.
It’s language specific. In english it comes before the number. In many other languages it comes after.
Where are you from? In English it’s always the case that you put the dollar sign before the number.
The dollar sign in English, maybe. But other languages and currencies have the symbol after the value, so it’s easy to get confused
I understand that it’s different in other languages, but I often see this behavior from native US Americans who only speak English.
Is it that relevant in this day and age? I was taught you put £ (or whatever currency you’re using) first when you’re writing so Johnny Fraudster can’t turn your 100£ into 1100£.
That all feels a bit immaterial on the web.
Hence the underline under the 00 cents/pence on a check/cheque.
Yes, it’s relevant in this day and age, because it’s still incorrect to do it the other way (at least in English and with $£¥ and a couple others, as another commenter pointed out).
When I read “20$” my first thought is that the person writing it didn’t pay attention in elementary school.
And being lenient about it on the web leads to the behavior leaking into the real world on things like shop signs.
Don’t even get me started on people who (mostly IRL) write things like “0.99¢” which makes me want to give them a cent and tell them to keep the change.
I don’t speak english natively. That’s why I didn’t know, yeah.
Now think about how much worse it is for every non-English western language! But good luck with your endeavour.
Thanks! Yeah I guess it might be hard for some people, but I speak some French and Spanish and it’s not hard for me to remember to ¡use proper exclamation points in Spanish! or «use guillemets instead of quotation marks in French». This feels like the same sort of thing.
The site looks vibe coded. It’s possible they just bought the trademark, quickly set up a site and hope to capitalize on the reputation of former Twitter.
The $20 and $40 early access certainly makes it seem like it. Even if that isn’t the case, time has shown that centralized social media has flaws so idealists will just stay with Mastodon while the people that want a large user base and easy of use will just use BlueSky instead. IMO there is no market aside from a possible gofundme-invention type exit scam.Twitter was awful before Musk bought it. Hard pass.
It seems like maybe the commenters here thus far are missing the (obvious from the title) fact that this is not affiliated with Musk or “X” at all? I admire the aggressiveness of this move and I’ll be rooting for them.
Seems pretty obvious it’s not related to Musk or X. However, it’s just another proprietary social network. We are all familiar with the pattern now. Proprietary network and investors eventually means enshitification.
Imo reviving Twitter as paid ai slop is just making a mockery of it.
Imo twitter was always a joke
FAQ was dead linking when I clicked on it earlier, too.
Twitter deserves the mockery. And this attempt too.
Yay, another centralized service owned by investors. And they want to build on “trust” lmao. Fuck off.
but it’s got AI fact checking! /s
The real power move here would be to grab the domain name and run a free Mastodon instance off of it.
A Masto instance would have been cool. But that is just garbage.
mastodon (like lemmy) is the epitome of uncool
you know you’re not forced to be here, right? 🤫
As soon as a better reddit clone comes along I’m GONE
But I doubt it, even Mastodon which is German got overrun by Americans and American politics
Americans are EVERYWHERE
let me guess, you’re one of the ones that got banned from reddit “for no reason”
I’m on reddit right now? Just having a quick read of this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/oldreddit/comments/1vvylak/thoughts_on_lemmy/
🤣
why do you think i care about random redditors on an obscure subreddit?
if you weren’t banned, you’d be upvoting those comments :D
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
what?
DON’T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT!
There’s no door here, this is a website
You know that Fediverse is decentralized, right? Lots of instance barely have anything American, especially Asian instance.
You know that Fediverse is decentralized, right?
OH REALLY? NO WAY
I HAD NO IDEA
I’ll be honest Americentrism annoys me too, but we can hardly complain when we’re on lemmy.world of all places.
America is the largest Anglophone country so you can’t really complain about them being numerous on an international English-speaking audience, not exactly their fault they did a lot of baby booming in the late '40s.
And the boomers had a bunch of kids that are all tech savvy and in their 30s-40s, so you know, the primary userbase for Reddit/Twitter/Lemmy/Mastodon etc.
oh look, an AfD member!
Merz? Is that you? Building the next strawman so you can keep ruining the country next election?
What 3 braincells rubbed together to make this comment
It’s running through servers, they objectively must stay cool.
I assume those servers are poor people servers and run at 100% cpu and 90 degrees
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Touch grass
