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    Plus, they dropped Callaway Golf after their horrific ad depicting violence against women.

    Wait… What?

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      The golf club company ran an ad where a woman went to touch a golf club and her man pushed her down and threatened her for her transgression.

      Costco stopped carrying their clubs in response

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        To be fair, it wasn’t Callaway directly. It was Good Good Golf, a golf youtube channel, that aired the ad. Callaway had a partnership with them to cobrand the golf club, but dropped Good Good immediately after the ad and canceled the branded club.

        Callaway still deserves the backlash from associating with them though and apparently someone giving the ok for the ad.

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        Just watched it. I like the idea of it, kind of reminds me of the old Wilkins coffee ads, but it really doesn’t fly the way it’s presented. It’s not shot like a comedy or anything, so you just feel like you saw actual domestic violence occur. Maybe they could have been rough housing back and forth or something?

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        Like what is the point they are trying to make even?

        Is the club so fragile that it’ll break if touched?

        Golfers are seriously superstitious?

        Women suck and can’t golf?

        If anything it would have been a better commercial to do the opposite, hand the club out to literally everyone that’s playing and they all hit better.

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        I’m NGL, initially i thought “This is probably one of those wacky ads taken out of context.” And no, it’s really really super gross. There’s nothing humorous about it, it’s just a really serious ad about pushing down and threatening a woman who touches your golf club.

        It wouldn’t be any better if the victim was a man either. The fact that there’s no other words except ‘the victim’ is telling.

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          It’s all so… plausible. His shove, her little cry of pain and surprise and fear, the way he leans down and tells her not to touch his club and then stalks away and furiously grabs the club as he leaves. The ad would have been better if it had been escalated to Looney Tunes levels of reaction, but instead they leave it in this alarmingly real area of domestic violence.

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        That was so much more fucked up than I expected. This has to be intentional, it is very hard to believe that anyone thought this made for a good commercial in any way other than to appeal to chuds who enjoy violence against women. It is blatant and explicit, the mask is off.

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        Even if it was a guy pushing another guy I don’t see how that would’ve ever been a funny spoof skit.

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          There was no way to salvage this.

          Say the guy had just grabbed the woman’s arm or put his arm in front of her to stop her instead. You still have that threat he makes towards her.

          Even if that threat was changed to “no one touches my club except me”, you still have that underlying implication of a threat.

          There’s no universe that could’ve salvaged this.

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            I think the only way would be to have it be Bart and Homer replicating the old Butterfinger ads with Homer’s golf club.

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            So if you walk into an electronics lab and see a piece of equipment with squee 😍 all these cool dials! 😍 and 🥰 🥰 lights!!! 🥰 🥰 and a threatening 😠 sign that says “don’t touch,” and you turn a dial just a little, but you totally didn’t hurt anything, who was in the wrong now that the equipment isn’t calibrated? The person for making the threatening sign? The person for leaving their equipment where any toddler could get to it? Or the the toddler for not having agency enough to know not to touch something that doesn’t belong to them? Are you going to pay for the engineering time it took a team to calibrate the equipment for a First Article Test the next week? You’re going to pay for the customers to fly back home after flying in on a Sunday for a Monday/Tuesday test that now can’t happen?

            Just because you don’t assign a value to a golf club doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a value to the person who bought it, trained with it, and went through the effort to carry it somewhere to play golf. And golf clubs or engineering labs aside, you don’t seem like you’ve ever had something broken by someone else before you even got a chance to use it. Are you going to refund the guy’s once in a lifetime golf vacation because you don’t know what forces a graphite shaft can/can’t withstand? Are you going to replace his grandpa’s headcover that he uses because it reminds him of his deceased grandpa teaching him golf?

            The engineering lab would obviously have access controls because of people who don’t understand what they’re doing. Someone’s golf clubs on a golf course, within sight of the owner and within asking distance to see if it’s OK to look at one can usually rely on common sense and etiquette. Usually…

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                You’re lucky to live such a charmed life to be so wealthy that you can absorb an infinite amount of the universe’s shots at you.

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                  If someone touching your golf club is the final ‘shot from the universe’ that makes you knock them down, the problem isn’t golf etiquette

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              So you agree with the ad’s message then? That violently shoving people to the ground if they reach for your golf clubs without asking is okay?

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                Again, you’re assigning a value of zero to someone else’s property.

                If you’re on your way to your landlord with $500 to make rent for the month and get mugged it’s a lot different if you’ve got plenty of money in the bank and need to make another trip to retreive more versus if it’s the last $500 you had to your name and you get evicted for not making rent.

                To prove my point, kindly take your most prized possession and destroy it. Post pictures here when you’re done for verification and open another thread moaning about how your stuff is broken and there’s nothing you could’ve done to stop it from happening.

                So you agree with the ad’s message then?

                I never said that and you shouldn’t put words in my mouth. I didn’t think people being secure in their property was such a debatable topic, but at least I understand now why invite-only, membership-required golf courses exist.

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                  Again, you’re assigning a value of zero to someone else’s property.

                  So, speaking of putting words in people’s mouths, I never said that.

                  What I am saying is, if you see someone about to touch your stuff without asking, then the usual, sensible action is to say something along the lines of ‘hey, stop!’ Not tackle them to the ground like a linebacker.

                  Yes, golf clubs are expensive. I have friends who golf, and one of the things that has convinced me I don’t want to is them talking about the price of their clubs.

                  However, I have never yet seen a golf club that is so fragile that it will shatter into pieces when touched (and if you watch the ad, all she’s doing is reaching out to touch them). Nor do they electrocute anyone who touches them. Therefore there is absolutely no fucking reason to assult someone for touching them without asking. Yell at them, maybe. Actually attack them, no.

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        holy shit lmao. i can just imagine all the people involved in making this chuckling to themselves over how funny they think it is.

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          I work in marketing. There’s a point where where you make so much money you honestly believe you take massive shits and everyone thinks it smells great.

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        That’s an ad? It looks like such low quality garbage shot on some dumbass’s phone.

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        To add just a little bit of extra “fuck you” to the situation, this was the first advertisement from Callaway featuring women. Practically progressive!

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        That was probably the worst ad I’ve ever seen. Concept, execution, humor, morality, all terrible. There’s not one redeeming factor here.

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      Looked it up, apparently they did an Obsession parody, but no one got the reference so it looked like the CEO of the company just pushed a woman to the ground for trying to touch his golf clubs.

      I’ve seen the ad, I didn’t get the reference either. I haven’t seen Obsession, but apparently that’s what that was in reference to…

      If you have to be told what the reference is, you’re probably not doing references right.

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        Thank you for the context! I’ve seen the ad in passing and really for the life of me, couldn’t understand why anyone thought that was a good idea. Now I kinda get it. It’s still terrible, but at least it’s not just “haha, hurting women funny”.

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        It is awfully suspicious how they make this ad after the CEO sells a bunch of stock while also doing this during a stock buyback.

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        Why did it have to be his partner he pushed down helpless? Why couldn’t he push down a friend guy?

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      A joke ad that was blown way out of proportion by a bunch of people saying it promoted women’s violence. An overreaction.

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        A woman reaches for his club and he violently SHOVES her to the ground. How is that in any way not violence against a woman.

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          It was the guys IRL girlfriend and it was an obvious joke commercial. It could have easily been the same commercial with the girlfriend shoving the guy if they were her clubs or a guy shoving his brother and no one would have batted an eye.

          Also, you say “violently shoves” and that’s what it was supposed to be made to look like, but if you actually look at the commercial he barely pushes her at all. It had nothing to do with being sexist or promoting violence against women. It was a funny lil “don’t touch my golf club” commercial that had nothing to do with promoting violence.

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            But he didn’t depict the other way around, they depicted a man shoving a woman down on the ground over a golf club. Nothing is funny about that and perpetuates the idea that this is ok for younger generations

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              Anyone who would actually believe it’s acceptable to shove tackle anyone down from touching a golf club is an idiot. The fact that you’re harping over an ad where it was a guy doing it to a woman is just the proof of that. Sounds like you’re sexist.

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          Have you heard of the idea of vegan plus bacon? Something like someone said i would go vegan but i just love bacon. And the response was, ok, go vegan plus bacon.

          Basically don’t think of it as all or nothing. Being as vegan as you possibly can is better than not trying. Imperfect veganism still makes a difference.

          I am working out a diet that is primarily vegan but get to keep chicken for now. Until i figure out something else to replace it. Also sometimes pork, but only sometimes.

          If everyone did it there would be far less need for factory farming, harmful inhumane killing of animals and damage to the environment as we would all be eating sustainable and environmentally friendlier foods. Just with some bacon.

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          Just avoid buying it.

          Simply avoiding meat is a lot easier than going completely vegan. You have a very good motivator to do so right now too.

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          Have you tried petting a cow? I eat way less beef after a random cow on the side of the road rolled over so I could rub its belly.

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      the big orange man wants americans to have government subsidized hamburgers so people think that food costs arent as insane as they are, but he refuses to say where he’s getting it from. the general consensus seems to be that he’s allowing the import of a bunch of meat that was rejected by other countries for failing to meet quality standards. because that’s how you help struggling cattle ranchers, after all.

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    I might have to go vegetarian if this is the future of meat thanks to Trump.

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        My vegan office mate keeps pushing this stuff. She loves it. Apparently it’s entirely wheat gluten or something. I have to keep reminding her that I have Celiac, but you know how vegans are.

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          Tempeh and TVP are soybean products and also really good.

          They’re proteins with a meat-adjacent texture and a blank slate for flavor.

          But seitan crisps up soooo good. There is this place near me that has these Korean seitan “boneless ribs” type thing with some wasabi/mustard sauce and my apologies to your sphincter but they would be worth it to try.

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      If you can afford to gamble $25 on the advice of an Internet stranger, do this:

      • Buy a 4lb bag of Vital Wheat gluten. (Can be aquired on Anthony’s Goods website.)

      • Mix it about 50-50 with water, and just… do stuff with it.

      • Example1: Mix 350 grams of gluten powder with 450 grams of water (Optional 5 grams of MSG) and stir it together until it’s a big blob. Pick it up and stretch it in every possible direction and knead the absolute shit out of it. Divide into 7 portions, and place on a greased cookie sheet. Bake at 250°F/120°C for about 2 hours. You now have a 50 grams of protein blob for each day of the week, to be sliced and dovided however you wish throughout the day.

      • Example2: Get a ripping hot skillet and dump in Some™ gluten powder and Approximately® twice as much water and vigorously stir it with, like, a fork or something like that, and dump some cooking oil on it as an afterthought, and dump some spices in it and boil off all the water to make a fake Taco meat mix. If it sticks, take it off the heat and add a splash of water to unstick it, and it’s okay to jave juicy taco seitan crumbles. You actually cannot fuck this up.

      Enjoy.

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        Eat beans! Vast majority of people are getting too little fiber. Don’t think wheat gluten has any either.

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            Tried extracting gluten from flour before, then found out it doesn’t work with wholemeal flour. Could try it again sometime, got white flour now because it was all I could get hold of.

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              Definitely use bread flour if you make it yourself. The higher the protein, the better, because the protein is what you’re getting out of it.

              To get 4lbs of gluten (dry weight), you’ll need 30lbs of white flour. You’ll get seitan for about half the price if you make it yourself (assuming flour is $0.50 per pound)… but I honestly think it’s so cheap that it’s worth it to buy the pre-processed gluten powder. Also because I’ve tried making it myself from flour, and I just don’t get good results.

              4lbs of gluten is 4lbs of pure protein. If you eat 50 grams per day, it’ll last 36 days.

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        Will have to see if I like that, that sounds strange but probably better than Trump meat

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          I’ve made the seitan recipe printed on the back of Bob’s Red Mill brand vital wheat gluten, and it had a taste and texture similar to bologna. It was actually pretty nice cold in a sandwich, and fried up in a pan. If that doesn’t float your boat, there’s about a billion ways to prepare beans, you’re bound to like one of those.

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            I’m a picky eater (thanks, autism) but I’m sure I will find something that works for me. Thanks for the tips

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              I’m a fussy autist too, and I absolutely love soya, probably because it’s so bland and umami. I used to make my own soya burgers. Tofu is lovely chopped, mixed with sweetcorn and thyme, wrapped in filo pastry parcels and baked. Apparently you can make tofu at home with lemon juice as the curdling agent. If I ever get my own place, I’d love to try it.

              Tempeh looks like brains, and I spent weeks looking at the jar before I plucked up the courage to try it. It turns out it’s really nice just breaded and baked. But the ones jarred in water taste better than the vacuum packed ones, which I’ve found to have more bitterness, even after steaming or boiling.

              Making tempeh at home is a lot trickier as it uses fermentation.

              Ironically, switching to a plant based diet in 2014 actually expanded the variety of food I ate by A LOT. Before that it was just potatoes and more potatoes, and if my executive dysfunction didn’t get me, maybe a bit of boiled veg.

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            Seitan is pretty good, my only issue with it in a sando or with noodles is like… you’re basically having wheat with wheat, it’s too much for me. But served with vegetables and sauce, it’s probably my favorite meat replacement

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      I get the feeling that the golf is just the structure to get wasted and do mild exercise with tangential friends under the guise of career networking. It beats having to deal with the family.

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      Nah it’s probably just certain clubs and perhaps even a regional thing. I know people who golf that are perfectly normal. It’s just something fun to do, be out in nature, shoot the shit with friends and have a nice game among friends. They don’t take it very seriously at all.

      I went with them once and it was a fun time. The golf course we went to wasn’t some kind of weird exclusive rich people club. Just a nice golf course with a rental place for equipment for visitors and a good restaurant/bar for lunch, drinks and dinner. We stayed for dinner and it was a good time. The golf course was full of regular folk having fun. There were no golf carts on this property, people just walked.

      We were behind a group of girls who weren’t very good and spent more time doing selfies and filming than actually playing the game. They had 7 people, which the course normally doesn’t allow, but the management said they thought it wouldn’t be that busy that day so allowed it. Normally they allow 4 people max, maybe 5 as an exception. Otherwise they need to split up as to not block a hole too long causing a line to form behind them. We opted to skip the hole they were on, so we would be in front of them and didn’t have to wait all the time. The girls had enough by lunchtime and spent the rest of the day taking selfies at the bar. So we backtracked and did the hole we missed.

      It was really fun, I was just very bad at it. My drives were very good, but my putting was awful. I only had mini-golf experience, so I thought it would be the other way around. But putting on an actual green with a real putter is something completely different from mini-golf it turns out.

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      Because it already takes a huge cognitive dissonance to ignore the wanton environmental destruction that their hobby causes. It’s a self-selecting bunch that are able to ignore reality and lie to themselves about how a golf course is “nature” simply because the color green is present.

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        Good thing you don’t have any hobbies like that. You just jerk your meat on the dark like a good boy.

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          No, I really don’t have any hobbies that involve bulldozing sensitive environments and dumping huge amounts of petroleum-based nitrogen into the soil every day.

          You’re telling on yourself.

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      In case you are serious, they have a website and mobile app and they deliver most things they have in the warehouse. Some things are only available on the app/website.

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    Like virtually every other US government body, the corporate capture of the USDA is nearly total, they are little more than a rubber stamp for whatever the meat industry feels is most profitable. It’s been a long, long time since the US led in the world in the safety and cleanliness of our food production.

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    As much as this is basically an ad, I agree.

    Support businesses that don’t take any shit because then you know they actually care about providing a service in addition to making money, as opposed to strictly the latter no holds barred.

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      Costco was very clear with the tariffs that they would eat the cost and just sue because they felt it was illegal. Low and behold, it was illegal, and they are getting a refund after not raising costs like everyone else. And their customers loved them for it.

      This is actually their entire buisness model as well. They don’t really make much money from their products. They make almost 100% profit from their memberships. If I remember right, over 2/3 of their total profit comes from membership revenue. So if they piss people off and make them cancel their membership, that would really fuck them over.

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      Who would’ve thought that doing the right thing is good for public sentiment.

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      Notice that all the employees there smile and laugh as they work. It’s heartening.

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        The amount of personal expression allowed is honestly impressive, and I love it. I saw an androgynous person wearing mild BDSM accessories working there and my thoughts were “go you, I’m so glad you’re allowed to be yourself in the workplace.”

        Hopefully that kind of stuff can spread and we can get rid of treating workers as soulless drones elsewhere too.

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            You should message corporate. They would probably like to hear this. If you got enough people to mention it, it will reverse. Their buisness model depends on customers being happy and keeping/renewing their memberships.

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              Tried that. A few times. Some people agreed with that. Others were really upset by it. And ultimately nothing was done because the policy was instituted after a Karen complained about an employee wearing a rainbow pin.

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            That was not the Costco and was rather some idiot who was put into a management position. Chances are that if corporate learned of it they’d have something to say.

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            Yikes… Where is that, so I can avoid the area?

            I’ve been around the ones in West Denver mainly and the impression I get is that people can wear largely whatever as long as they’re doing their jobs, I could be wrong though

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        It is the number one reason I keep coming back all these years. There are employees whose tenure rivals my age.

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    I haven’t had meat since I heard the laws were relaxed.

    Haven’t had a hard time at all. Beans, seitan, impossible meat. It’s all delicious!

    Never going back.

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      I wouldn’t be surprised if beans are the next thing in their list of stuff to ruin.

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      Sadly, it’s more common to get food-borne illness from (uncooked) produce than from meat.

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        I think the worry isn’t food poisoning or parasites, it’s cancer from the latest imported beef. Or maybe mad-cow. I just remember it was somehow worse than explosive diarrhea.

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          Was it not metal contamination? The cows had screws and worms in them or something.

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            chloramphenicol - a banned for use in livestock antibiotic

            So, the effects are rare. But China turned away beef that tested positive. Then the US government announced a mystery-origin meat to help lower prices. Maybe it was a false positive and a coincidence on the trade deal timing.

            But I remember when mad cow disease was a concern. It was rare too. But also not a good way to die.

            I feel like we are living the hypothetical, “if a bowl of skittles has up to 1% of them poisoned, do you eat them because your odds are decent?”

            If I was only going to vomit a couple times, maybe if I’m hungry enough. If I’ll die an agonizing death from a poisoned skittle, then no, I’ll ty to find something else.