Pro-AI mod bans me from a bunch of communities I never even heard of because he didn’t like my criticism of the fake slop that isn’t art which he posts.

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    Sounds more like someone with an agenda. Someone with an agenda should not be a mod. Then again, mods, like the current supreme court in the united states, can be biased. Who knows anymore?

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      I’m guessing they’re opposed only to corporate use, while endorsing individual use (my indicator being the trove of Stable Diffusion communities they also mod). I’d love to check it out, but db0 defederated us.

      I’ve seen a few types about that mostly criticise the way companies use it at scale to replace human employees. Their argument is that generating and refining images with successive prompts produces higher quality “art” than the mediocre slop put out by corporations.

      If you accept the premise that the value of art is the quality of the result rather than the effort that went into making it and acquiring the skills for it, that logic holds up well enough. It’s just that most artists disagree, and once the sloppers start to claim that their effort is comparable, never having actually invested the time and energy into learning just how wrong they are, that their argument starts to crumble irredeemably.

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        db0 defederated us.

        really? now just tell me that you automatically filter/ban everything from any cm0002 account and defederated lemmy ml and it makes a really good advertisement :D

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          really?

          Yeah, Germany’s current government is… not great for honest and open discourse about Israel and our admins aren’t anarchist enough to risk their doors getting kicked in, their devices confiscated and our instance being shut down by openly and explicitly defying the laws of the place they live.

          So besides a slew of rules against advocating oppression of minorities, harassing minorities, intentionally misgendering or deadnaming, promoting nationalist sentiments, posting Nazi symbolism and all the other sensible rules you’d expect, they’ve got a rule about not posting anything illegal in Germany, Austria or Switzerland. That includes “Death to” type calls against anything and anyone, and in Germany also includes challenging Israel’s statehood. While they don’t hunt down every small violation, they do take down the most egregious ones.

          According to db0, that’s tantamount to the soldiers in 1940 “just following orders”.

          There’s no shortage of people criticising our government and all its fuckery, nor do people get banned for calling out genocide, and even our admins and mods criticise Israeli actions. But once they covinced the mselves that we’re all Zionazis, any hope of civilly sorting this out went down the drain and now it’s a shitfest with no winners (except maybe the actual Nazis delighted at seeing the leftists fight each other again).

          defederated lemmy ml

          No, we’re still federated with them and with a bunch of other instances I don’t particularly like, but I think it’s better to federate and let people block them than to endlessly fracture the fediverse from the outset.

          We’re also defederated from a few I wish we weren’t, and I don’t personally agree with all rules and moderation decisions either. It’s not perfect, but I don’t think any place is. It has people and communities I care about, and it’s good enough for me.

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          It seems they’re just really good at making friends all around. Getting banned both by the AI subs and by fuck_ai indicates it was never about AI.

          Reason given in the modlog is harassment. Sounds about right.

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    They run a community about hating corporate ai and a bunch of corporate ai communities. I see they outsourced 100% of their brain function to Slop Defecation

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      Seems mostly Stable Diffusion, which is open source with corporate backing, but I also found the distinction kind of silly. Like, you hate AI if it’s owned by Meta and OpenAI and whatnot, but it’s cool as long as you can use it locally? Still have a lot of ethical implications, although it’s admittedly marginally better.

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        It’s all slop which steals from artists. Just because they’re “anarchists” doesn’t give them the right to steal art from other people!

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      Stable Diffusion isn’t a company, but also, if you’re heavily invested in one side of the argument, controlling your opposition is the best possible outcome. You allow regular dissent because that’s irrelevant and changes nothing, but when actual controversy happens, you can kill it instantly.

      The exact same thing happens all over the world all the time, it’s called controlled opposition.

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    Wtf is stable diffusion mycology? Ah yes, I’ll start machine generating mushrooms because I just can’t get enough photos of them in real life.

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      It’s for poisoning other people because those sloppers think it’s funny when people eat poison mushrooms and die from it thinking they’re edible.

      Oh “All mushrooms are edible, some are only edible once hahahaha”

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      And To what end for the user?. A human can do anything the AI can. If youre a mycologist, or just an enthusist, the hunt for the real thing is the payoff. If you want to add something to the field, ai generated is false data.

      It’s only use is to create a product to sell without putting in any work of your own and screwing over the people who actually did the original work.

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    You’re probably not missing anything in those stable diffusion communities.

    Fuck Corporate AI could be interesting though!

    Edit: Fuck Corporate AI is a graveyard, just 3 posts, no active community there.

    OP nothing of value was lost.

    But also, how did you offend someone within an hour of creating your account? I’m impressed!

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      Fuck Corporate AI could be interesting though!

      No way, even if it was more active, it’s a slop community like all the others

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    Weird that almost every “I got banned“ post comes from some guy who was acting like an asshole