His wife is going to leave him, and he will have no idea why.
Don’t worry. He’ll be able to create a sycophant AI wife shortly after
Shit sticks together, what makes you think she would leave?
What part of simply asking her husband to be involved with their child made you think she’s shit? People change over time. He may have chosen a different trajectory from hers
Same part as what makes you guys thing she would. Basically boils down to, we have no idea what they are like!
We have one data point: him attempting to shirk his familial responsibility after being asked. It provides some small level of support for the stance you’re arguing against.
It does not support your contrarian response at all.
So, no. It doesn’t boil down to the same thing.
It does, if you choose not to understand that, no problem. We have no idea what the next response from the wife could be. “Wow, that’s an amazing idea honey!” is just as likely considering she married this man.
Reread what I said.
Understand that you need to INVENT something that isn’t part of the evidence to support your position. That is not the same as overeager extrapolation from what IS available.
Hivemind goes crazy. You fabricated that in the same way I did. There’s no telling what the wife reaction would be, so you can infer anything from the tweet.
Nobody is denying this: him attempting to shirk his familial responsibility after being asked
The point you are arguing is that his wife would leave him from things like this, which is assuming that his wife would object to his “familial responsibility avoidance”, which is the same as assuming she would not object to it. You are inventing the wife having a negative reaction, I am saying the wife could have a positive reaction.
Also, you invented something first, pot calling the kettle black.
He may have chosen a different trajectory from hers
You’re a very strange person.
That makes at least three of us in this thread!
Parenting hits different when you work in AI
Yeah, hits like mental abuse.
I knew people were gonna be obsessed with AI, but I genuinely never thought people would surrender all executive function and thought to what is, ultimately, a very elaborate and planet destroying if=then machine.
the amount of people I have seen becoming totally dependent on it is ridiculous. There are people who cant even have human interaction anymore without running it through their AI model to process the message, and produce a reply.
and its 100% invading the real world too, I dont know the whole details cause you try to turn your ears off at the pharmacy to not hear other peoples private information… but there was a woman getting very heated with one of the pharmacy people and I only took notice when she slammed her phone on the counter, aggressively pointed at it, and said very loudly “I DON’T CARE WHAT YOU SAY, LOOK, RIGHT HERE, MY AI SAYS YOU’RE WRONG” in a that kareny way that says her and her AI was 100% wrong.
Damn I try to keep my mouth shut but if someone screamed that near me I’d be interjecting. Like goddamnit the AI does not know anything.
It’s a machine modeling human speech. It’s all a hallucination and sometimes that hallucination is straight up lies and sometimes, hopefully most of the time, it aligns with actual reality.
I fucking loathe that people won’t take 15 minutes to just read a basic primer on what an LLM is. It’s a fancy autocorrect, and yeah it’s way more complex than that but at the end of a day it’s made to model realistic human language output - and that’s it. It doesn’t have any actual knowledge, it doesn’t have any way to know if what it says is true or not, and it certainly doesn’t know if what it says is insane.
Also using a model for this is totally missing the bonding experience.
I have a few friends who use OpenAI and Gemini to do this (generate new stories every night) and I do not understand why you would do so. There are a bazillion kids books out there. Just get ten of those and your kid will be happy for ten months!
Or you could make a story up 😄
Or tell a story of your wild & sordid youth & make it sound made up.
“Aaaand that’s how i met your mum, kids.”
one of my kids loves when I tell them a made up story. I always find my stories lame and lacking didactic value when I compare them to professional audiobook stories. But when having the choice, my kid prefers my made up stories. I can’t say no to that.
Ten? They’ll fixate on one that’ll you’ll need to read so often that you don’t need the actual book anymore
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there is so lovely media out there… often artists/storywriters who are parents themselves. there is no other niche that I know of where you can feel the love they put in in so many works. This makes me almost want to have kids. Well or at least become a children’s book author lol
If you’re in the US just sign up for Dolly Parton’s Imagination Library and you’ll get a free kids book for your each of your kids every month.
That woman could’ve been a billionaire several times over but consistently chose to reinvest her wealth into community rather than hoarding it all to herself like a dragon. What a shame she’s gone.
Dragons are meant to be slain.
Not to mention the creation of a shared cultural heritage.
Most Danish kids have heard a few, or all, of HC Andersen’s biggest works. It gives them something to talk about when they’re socialising with other kids
If your friends kid, becomes the only kid in their class which haven’t heard the stories of their local cultural heritage. That’s a potential for creating a social rift in school, why have you not heard about the ugly duckling?
Childrens books are expensive. A 20 pages one cost the same amount like a 700 pages roman.
We use the library but cant go there every week.
Thinking is hard after full workday + 6h intense childcare. Youll see what i mean when you have kids and do it without screentime. Zero.
You could try thrifting :3
Also, you’ve assumed that:
A, this person wants to have kids, and
B, that this person does not have kids.If you’re in the U.K., The Works will sell you 10 children’s books for £10, which is less than one hour of work at minimum wage for an adult.
I certainly wouldn’t buy all our kids books brand new.
I do buy a couple of the hard cover classics.
I buy a heap from thrift stores. This is probably the majority.
We go to the library when we can.
I also pirate and print some.
Do you not have access to books from when you were a kid? That’s what mom did until she could buy new books.
No.
Oh…
Sorry, I guess the context is that none of those things we kept from when I was a child.
With kids paraphernalia there’s the cheap stuff that gets worn out quickly and discarded, and the expensive stuff that might last more than a generation. We had the items in the former category.
Yeah, you’ll be handed a ton of books from relatives and friends if you ask openly
Taking a hard stance against screen time while recruiting AI to do your parenting. Ok
Expensive new maybe, but…
Secondhand shops. Both online and offline.
Charity/ thrift shops.
Places like Vinted and eBay.
Ask relatives and friends for books instead of yet another toy.
I’ve seen so many sales at the library, where books are sold for a few cents each.
Interesting you used roman for novel. Are you Ukrainian or Russian? Edit: I see this is the same in a lot of languages. Could be German.
Swedes call longer stories on prose “Romaner”, and we call short stories, novellas, novelletes “Noveller”.
I like languages, and am interested in the propagation of them, hence the question. Thanks for that. In English, ‘novella’ has persisted as a term for a shorter story/novel.
Huh, I was wondering what they meant by “roman.” TIL.
Every child is hell in their own special way but not every day is going to be 6h ‘intensive’ childcare. Unless you’ve got an intellectually challenged child, you’re going to have some days where it’s easier and some where it’s harder.
And, if they make it hard enough, they go to bed without a story. They cry and scream and they learn, then maybe tomorrow they’ll just be hard instead of too hard.
I’m so glad AI is here to relieve me of the physically and mentally overwhelming task of checks notes spending time with my child.
More time left for what truly matters: creating shareholder value
Me: “Why dont you come visit and talk to me in the nursing home?”
My kids: “just talk to grok”
I’m sure there is a good few older people who would find a lot of comfort in Groks world view.
AI companies build their services to get users hooked. Their LLMs adopt your worldview by design
That poor kid, Imagine your own father thinks so little of you that he would rather spend 10X the time to train a clanker just so he doesn’t have to spend time with you.
I’m guessing some day he will be one of those oblivious assholes on facebook whining because his kids cut off contact.
“Dad, do you want to play catch?”
“Who are you? Oh, ohhhh…Best I can do is get one of those dog ball throwing machine things!”
“Ok Google, buy me a dog ball throwing machine”
Parenting hits really different when you’re an idiot and a sociopath.
Alvin there doesn’t want to bother talking to his child.
Parenting hits different when your intelligence is artificial
I thought this was satire, but it appears to be real.
This is exactly what I came into the comments to see.
Same. If it wasn’t here, then I was just going to have to post it.
Futurama just gets it
That’s not true. My father was a terrible parent and that was decades ago. Tech Bros. think they invented bad parenting now.
What’s not true?
This dude clearly thinks he invented bad parenting.
Interesting take. Why do you think so?
Clearly they’re a bad parent, but I don’t see any claims of originality in there whatsoever.
Man, I feel kinda sorry for that guy. He must have had terrible parents, if he perceives story time as a chore instead of an opportunity to bond with your child. He should probably get some professional help to work through his horrible childhood. Though his next tweet would probably be „I‘ve replaced my therapist with an AI and now I‘m even more confident that everyone else is wrong!“
Its bonkers but some men are raised to believe that their role when not at work is to do as little as possible.
When my kids were in pre-k, there was a Donuts with Dad day where the fathers would come in to visit. I was appalled to see so many of the fathers just standing in a corner talking to each other, completely ignoring their kids rampaging around the room hitting each other with things. Like, your kid is beating on another kids and you’re not even glancing in that direction even after you were finally roused to tell him to stop 2 other times.
Unfortunately the Asian parent stereotype is true for many Asian parents. Bet his mom still calls him a failure because his cousin is a doctor.
This is ragebait. Right? People can’t possibly be that shitty…
As a parent who interacts with other parents, I can assure you some are.
:(
My ex would do it. Probably wouldn’t tweet about it (she’s a covert narcissist)
Yeah but they would have the self awareness to realise that this is shit parenting right?
As someone who had to endure shit parents as a child: They don’t.
They will rather go win gold in mental gymnastics than to allow any form of self-awareness from developing, too.
And then emotionally blackmail you to try and get you to take the blame for it
Jokes on them, I never developed the emotional capacity needed to be able to be emotionally blackmailed, thanks to their shit parenting.
“Oh so my mom wants to jump off a bridge if I don’t come visit her? Well whatever floats her boat, that’s far from the worst idea she ever had.”
I watched a presentation from a big tech company in which the presenter talked how, while his wife was giving birth, he saw that as an opportunity and asked AI to build a “nursery design” site because he could use his daughter as a model. People were praising him for being forward thinking about providing to his family, I just couldn’t imagine being this greedy.
I saw people from the same company eagerly discussing using AI to recreate dead relatives. It’s disgusting how much these people are hypnotized by AI
Ow. Then again, the snake oil vendors would of course be this stupid/cynical. I am surprised at users being lost enough to actually do s.t. like this.
There was a clip from legal eagle that the victims sister used his pictures to create an ai video of him to present at trial. I don’t know if its shitty… but its fucking weird man
it is awful that a judge doesn’t throw out such evidence and the witness with it.
I said this the other day, it’s a story. Regardless of whether or not it’s ragebait it has a kernel of truth existing inside a story. Could this have happened, sure. Is it an objective truth? Most definitely not.
Siri, play Cats in the Cradle
This song fucked me up when my first was born.
I know this is about the AI but the unaddressed elephant in the room is that people romanticize the idea of having children and realizing it’s not what they expected or really wanted. Society constantly puts pressure on people having kids.
I know people who would die to have children so they can see them become successful well adjusted adults. Those people can have kids.
I also know people who dont want to have kids. They dont have to.
I also also know people who really want kids, but in the way a person would want a dog, so they can train it to be good, hit it when its bad, and itll never be older than 3 years because they havent thought that far ahead. These people should be sterilized.
Hah yeah I agree on the last statement. That’s why I have such a negative outlook on the subject. Once you fill out CPS reports, you start to have more negative outlooks such as maybe there should be a license to have kids.
people romanticize the idea of having children and realizing it’s not what they expected
dude…so much this.
I had zero romantic thoughts of having kids. I didn’t even want them, honestly. my wife and literally everyone around us on the other hand, very much so wanted us to have kids.
don’t judge though. as a current parent I don’t ignore my responsibilities and fully intend on giving my kids the best I can. at least, a better more loving home than I had.
but man, life would be so much easier without them. I literally could be on a beach somewhere in the world right now if I didn’t have kids. have lunch in Paris. then stop by in Denmark for some dinner.
by the time they can stand on their own I’ll be dead. so now I can only save money in hopes to help soften any financial hardships they will need to endure.
I’ve been playing around with the idea of recording some “dad’s wisdom” videos for them when they get older and I’m not around.
The video idea sounds pretty good.
I went separate ways with my ex-fiancee over this topic. It wasn’t so much as I was against having kids, I had conditions such as financial stability and owning a home. And deep down I didn’t want to take care of two people and be financially responsible for everything, my ex-fiancee already had a hard time holding down a job.
But like you said, even now that I have my own place, I’m more motivated to travel than get into that lifestyle. I’m sure I would have been a decent parent having worked in education but the tradeoffs are too steep for me.
So will the divorce bud.
