Dude was also the reason unions in wrestling never went anywhere. So a racist and a fucking union buster sellout. Good riddance.
How?
He ratted out Jesse Ventura to McMahon when Jesse was trying to get his wrestling colleagues to join a union. Source.
ventura dint do any favors either, basically he said f you guys your on your own if you dint unionize with me, he only said it because had a backup plan, a union with sag-aftra, so it basically abandoned them, dint care about thier potential fall out. the wrestlers dint have much power it at the time, if the other wrestlers were also actors, they wouldve unionize, most of them were scared to do so.
he also has a history with PETER THIEL too, because thiel bankrolled hogans lawsuit against Gawker, as part of a vendetta for reporting on his business pratices, plus him being gay.
Yeah, after Ventura tried to get them to unionize and Hogan messed it all up, Ventura bailed. He was already unionized as an actor before approaching them, but saw the obvious benefits of a union and wanted them to have the same. If he was really their friend, he would’ve fought harder for them to have what he had.
oh yea, i place some of the blame on ventura too, hes the one who started it, he shouldve finished it instead he just ditched them, he was only able to speak from him position, because already was an actor with sag aftra. he shoulve known a lowly wrestler isnt going to have many negotiating positions in a union formation.
Losing Gawker was a big turning point for the public not having a consistent satirical biting rag news site. Looking back, losing gawker probably contributed to the enshitification of Reddit too with the influx of Gawker commenters. We may never have been able to avoid the current reality but if Gawker was around still it would have certainly been different.
thiel backing the lawsuit, just made a Conservative activism in the courts, which paved the way from right wing groups backed by russia and funded to introduce legislation or lawsuits against (non-religious laws)
plus him being gay.
that’s no excuse /s
I forgot who was trying to organize the union (Ventura??), but Hogan found out and ran to Vince McMahon.
I know next to nothing about this topic but heard in an interview with Ventura, that Hogan was the only one of that league (or how they call it) who had already signed a fat contract with a higher league and that the unionization would have put that into risk of not proceeding.
Edit: Found the interview. It was a bit different than I remembered but not much.
https://youtu.be/nt5mRyIyOzU?t=2947 (at 49:07)
He’s right, everyone is a little racist. That’s what happens when you’re raised in a racist society.
But that shit was really racist
And it was said privately that somebody filmed. Doesn’t make it right but neither is releasing a private tape.
Conservatives would do well to behave like everything they say in private will be published. If they can’t be good people out of empathy they can be good people out of fear.
In most states if you’re party to a conversation you have a right to record it and share it with others if you’d like. Federally it’s legal too, including phone calls. Some states do restrict recording without informing all parties, but most don’t as it’s important means of protecting yourself sometimes.
I emphasized “if you’re party” above because it’s an important distinction. In many situations you cannot record the conversation of others if you’re not an active participant, though there are exceptions for things said/done in public and in/on your property.
I just don’t understand how private sex tapes get leaked. First of all, do people really regularly film themselves having sex? Also, surely only the couple would have a copy, and surely you’d trust someone before making such a tape, no?
I’m just amazed each time it happens.
In the digital age, it was probably on someone’s phone that got compromised.
Ozzy dragged Hogan down on his way to Hell to do us all a favor
Don’t put him in hell or it’s going to kill the vibe down there. Shove him in heaven with all the other insufferable dicks.
I’d rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, the sinners are much more fun, darlin’ only the good die young.
(Which, if no one’s noticed, is about a guy trying to get in the pants of a Catholic school girl.)
Dude pulled nearly $200,000,000 for charity giving his last concert. If he deserves to be hell, Hogan should be elsewhere.
Ozzy would be there because it’s metal, Hogan would be there to suffer.
Ozzy once played a wise badass in a game about ruling hell, Brütal Legend. This is him now aha
Metal, Noise, Blood, and Fire tell me what you most desire.
That was a fun game. Not a good game, but one with an amazing premise. Gotta re-watch some lets plays.
It’s not that Ozzy deserves to be in hell. It’s because, being the Prince of Darkness, he bought some nice real estate there.
He’s one of the ones that can come and go as he pleases
You don’t understand, Ozzy Osbourne is not damned, he is there simply because he wants to trip crazy train with Allister Crowley
If we’re doing “old guys with reality shows in the early 2000s”, I know a person that would complement this specific rule of three very well.
I have quite a few people of the same age in mind that I’d much rather have seen dragged to hell - not that I am too bothered with Hogan
I guess we’re all a little racist.
Cope. Racists simply can’t imagine that being a hateful bigot makes them a bad person- so they HAVE to pretend that everyone feels that way but we just keep it quiet.
I had a co-worker who insisted he wasn’t racist, but he did hate ‘Sand-Nwords’. He said “Everybody hates one group or another”. He refused to believe that I hate literally no one in the world because of their race.
Yeah, this is straight up “I have a black friend” and citing the wealthy basketball payer as worthy is “You’re one of the good ones.”
Bet if questioned publicly he’d have said he’s not racist.
He tried to walk it back after facing the consequences- who knows if it was genuine or an attempt to salvage his reputation.
“Eight years ago I used offensive language during a conversation. It was unacceptable for me to have used that offensive language; there is no excuse for it; and I apologize for having done it. This is not who I am. I believe very strongly that every person in the world is important and should not be treated differently based on race, gender, orientation, religious beliefs or otherwise. I am disappointed with myself that I used language that is offensive and inconsistent with my own beliefs.”
Sounds like a generic, well-edited apology that we hear far too often from people that usually don’t mean it.
For sure. I don’t believe it was genuine personally.
Isn’t it so crazy how these people talking casually among their friends is never “who they are” but them walking it back via a publicist because it hurt them is who they actually are?
Just sooo crazy! And the one and only time they’re talking like “someone they’re not” someone happens to be recording it and it’s bad for their career! The world sure is a crazy place
Yeah weird that. The only reason I gave him the slightest benefit of the doubt was because it had been 8 years and people can change a lot in that amount of time. They usually don’t, but it’s possible. I guess a generic publicist written apology is better than doubling down on your ignorance, but I’m almost certain it was simply to protect ‘the brand’.
It’s kind of fitting in a way that he turned out to be a chud. I was never huge into wrestling, but there was a couple of years there between 4 and 6th grade that I would watch it, Hulk was my favorite because he had a positive message and seemed to be a decent guy. His theme song “I am a real American, fight for the rights of every man” resonated with me because I was young enough and ignorant enough to believe in ‘America’ and that it was founded on everyone being equal. As I got better informed and saw that this country was built upon White Men being equal, and everyone else is treated as a subhuman- I realized that the American Dream was a lie and this country was built upon white supremacy, slavery, and genocide. So to find out ol dude was ‘A real American’ after all is just icing on the ironic cake.
Never look up to anyone. Be your own hero.
it had been 8 years and people can change a lot in that amount of time. They usually don’t, but it’s possible
If you don’t change after 8 years, there’s something wrong with you. That’s literally long enough to replace most of the cells and atoms in your body, you shouldn’t LITERALLY be the same person on a molecular level.
And yet very often people will replace all the atoms and most of the cells in their bodies, and still hold on to ignorant, hateful thinking.
If only it were a matter of waiting long enough the world would be a paradise by now.
The brain is like a muscle, you have to use it for it to grow. Unfortunately there’s no steroids you can take as a shortcut, you have to put in the work. 💪 🧠
I can’t imagine not using your brain for 8 yea… remembers there are people who voted for Trump the first time, saw his term, and proceeded to vote for him again despite how Trump handled Covid and how we had to get rid of him to end it.
Okay you got me
sand-nwords? What would that be? A slur for the nomads of the Saharra? Bedouines?
This was a derogatory term for middle easterners that cropped up (to my awareness, anyway, and I don’t care to go searching around to fact check myself on this point) in the xenophobia following 9/11.
Seems like it would be for anyone brown tbh. Y’no, cause racists think all brown people lve in the desert.
You’re going to have to research that on your own. I didn’t ask for clarification and I don’t care to know what he meant tbh.
Gawker media died for this post.
nothing of value was lost back then either, they kept pushing bs clickbait and calling it journualism
I read a few of those replies… holy crap Twitter sucks
…Defending the racist?
Worse - agreeing with him, or saying it makes them like him better. It seems like an awful mix of edgelords and actual racists.
There is no distinction between the two.
Rest in Piss
I mean, he had a point.
Just kidding, he was a piece of shit
Remember these things come in threes. Hmmmmmmm… I wonder what other major 80s/90s icons who had reality TV shows come to mind?
I wonder…
Didn’t we already hit 3? Hogan, Malcom Jamal Warner, and Ozzy.
Chuck Mangione too
I’m counting Brian Wilson/Ozzy Osbourne/Chuck Mangione as the trilogy, although Wilson was a month and a half ago
Made-up bullshit
Remember these things come in threes.
No.
Jesus Fucking Christ
Oh no. Anyways.
I knew he as trash but … yuck
Jesus Christ. I did a deep web search & I’m seeing this comes from a transcript from 1985. Apparently. IIRC that word only dropped out of favor with the OJ Simpson trials around 1990.
…not trying to excuse it, because goddamn that is some racist & hateful nonsense. Very concentrated. But for the internet kiddos that don’t know the past very well, and don’t research…I figured I’d supply some context for you all. Hateful by any context right there.
Not even from my time, I wasn’t even born yet.
Homie, IDK what dark corner of the web you found yourself on when doing your research, but take it from someone who was there. That word was a big No-No WELL before 1990.
I would certainly hope so. Favor is the wrong word to use…its use was so heavily discouraged that, around 1990 with the OJ Simpson trials, it finally dropped out of most people’s common vernacular & was not even referred to in media. Then referred to as “the n-word”.
That’s simply incorrect. Nothing changed in 1990. Since before I was born (1974) non-racist white people did not use that word. It’s possible that some news outlets updated their style guides around that time to completely forbid that word in any context, but it was most certainly not something your average person would just drop into conversations, and definitely not something a publication would just casually throw out. I’m telling you- I was there, I was alive then. I remember.
Hell I grew up in a town that was super racist among the older generation, and even there I never heard that word said in school. If someone had they would have had their asses beat (we still had corporal punishment, that’s how long ago this was).
I’m curious where you got this impression from?
That’s been the media narrative for years & years, they always tie in some cop dragging OJ Simpson off & calling him a n-gger. Then it was like a switch was flipped & everyone was like, you know what…we’re done even reporting this… let’s call it the n-word.
Here, I promise, I am randomly pulling an example. 8:01 AM my time. By 8:02, I found this 2nd result, How OJ Simpson created the n-word. No, I am not researching this further, in the same way that I’m not popping my head outside to confirm the sky is blue. I pass the torch…to you. I found it in 1 minute by searching “OJ Simpson n-word”. Over 20 years, I have casually seen this connection cited dozens of times.
Also in my own defense, I was posting this at 3 AM & clearly no one’s on my wavelength. So I went to bed. It’s now 8 AM & I’m going to work. OJ Simpson n-word. Have fun. 👍👍👍👍
I’ve never seen mainstream media pushing that narrative. It should be a huge red flag to you if the only source you can find that supports your belief is on social media (yes, YouTube is social media).
“It should be a huge red flag” that you can’t be bothered to web search OJ Simpson N-word, search specifically for news articles, and look at the dozens of results that pop up. Huge red flag. Multiple red flags. Perhaps even banner sized red flags.
Nowhere in any of those articles does it state that the word was ever part of “most people’s common vernacular,” as you claimed. When most people found out what those detectives said they were disgusted. Awareness, and the public discourse about racism definitely changed after the OJ trials, but most people weren’t casually using the N word in the 80s.
You know who always resented the use of that word?
Black people.
Not just black people either, my mom heard my brother and I call each other that (we’re white) and boxed our ears. I was like 5 years old so this was around 1979. She explained to us what racism was and why it’s wrong to say that. I haven’t used that word since.
You must be new to rap.
Rappers don’t use that word, they use a word that sounds similar but has an entirely different meaning. You must be new to the world if you think they mean the same thing.
Poor Righteous Teachers (often shortened to PRT), were a pro-black hip-hop group active from the late ‘80s to early 2000s, founded by the rapper Wise Intelligent, backup vocalist Culture Freedom and producer Father Shaheed (deceased in 2014).
https://genius.com/Poor-righteous-teachers-conscious-style-lyrics
There’s niggas is lacking over there, niggas is lacking over here Some niggas is dying over here, and niggas is dying over there
You’re right - it’s niggas! Heureka, finally a safe N-word to use.
Maybe Hogan used that word instead of the N-word and the transcript is just wrong. Maybe they were close friends.
You should have explained to your mom you were using “niggas”, as in he sense of brother or close friend.
Are you really this stupid? First of all that isn’t the word we were using, and I wouldn’t have tried to weasel out of deserved punishment at any rate. The lessons my mom taught me made me the man I am today and I cherish every one of them.
If you can’t understand that the context changes depending on who is saying it, how they are saying it, and the intent behind saying it- I feel sorry for you.
Feel free to remain ignorant or racist or whatever your issue is though, you do you.
You made the distinction between the N-word and the word that rappers use (without naming it so I am still at a guess but I try to follow your argumentation).
So if you used the N-word, you deserve punishment, correct.
But that shows me you wanted to be bad and evil, which, again, legitimates the punishment and using the legitimate word in that situation would be weasling out, correct.
So I conclude your intent was to be an asshole by using the N-word. Thanks for clearing that up. I was not personally available in your private situation you lived through, so I am maybe missing some details.
Now could you name me the available not-N-word you spoke of, because that would interest me.
Have you ever asked yourself why it’s so important to you to be able to use that particular word?
I’m not doing this anymore. This is not the nineties anymore, and there is no way even the whitest motherfucker alive is putting that argument forward in good faith.
These are the words of black motherfuckers from that aera, see my post below about PRT. If that word is still used nowadays by black motherfuckers is homework for you; I don’t care as they would get the pass of “but theeey may use it, white motherfuckers don’t”, which is also racist, but in todays time, not 40 years ago and we all should have evolved in the meantime.
“but theeey may use it, white motherfuckers don’t”
You can use it all you want. You’ll just be telling people you are a racist piece of shit. Which, let’s be honest, you seem to be. So everything works out in the end.
Honestly, I again am lost. Where have I acted as a racist? People really seem to misinterpret me. (waiting for “no, we are not misinterpreting you, you are just a racist asshole yadda yadda”).
Again: I don’t care about color, black, green, blue, white, purple. I don’t care. Treat everyone the same, done. It’s much easier anyway.
Oh we’ve reached the “purple” stage of the debate. We are now officially in the late nineties.
Are you serious? I think 99.9% of the time it is being used by them.
Bro, that word was taboo before my time, and i was born in the 70s.
She had two white kids. So, I guess she took this one to heart.
While racist, yes, it’s funny how money appears to be the bigger issue to him. Sounds like he would be cool with Diddy.
