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wtf is going on in nigeria :D
Christianity
Fucking pedo cults, man.
My guess is the billions that the US has spent to export evangelical bigotry in Africa.
Not to disagree, but a lot of other places spent billions on exporting bigotry to Africa. Unfair to give the US all the credit.
You are right that the US doesn’t have a monopoly on this, but they are almost certainly the front runner. There are plenty of European conservatives that donate to these “causes” and we can’t forget the Catholic church that has recently compared “gender ideology” to nuclear war. Russia has also been pushing conservative and anti LGBT views, though I’m not sure how much they are involved in Africa. I’m sure there are plenty of others that I’m leaving out.
In recent history it’s mostly the US. It’s a big country, and a rich country. Canadian evangelicals do their part, but will always play second fiddle just on population grounds, while Europe is just less religious. (The funny thing is that as a result of their success overseas, evangelical churches around here are getting pretty brown and diverse, which was not the plan)
Obviously this whole chart is outside of the colonial era.
In recent history it’s mostly the US.
Guess i can’t really argue wity that. What remains is the question whether the change was mainly driven by outside forces, or is mainly the result of internal pressure. We know who recently exported the most bigotry, but was it more influencial then the bigotry that was exported there earlier? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Obviously this whole chart is outside of the colonial era.
I agree 1993 was after the colonial era, but my point is that Nigeria wasn’t a blank slate that was never influenced by anything before they collected the data for this chart.
Sure. That goes for India as well, though. This thread really seemed to be about who’s gotten worse.
Specifically on this issue in this time frame.
Disclaimer: I’m not an expert, but more familiar than most westerners.
Nigeria has a particularly rough history of religious extremism and totalitarianism. Even a lot of the indigenous beliefs were particularly intolerant (although this varied a lot, as Nigeria is an extremely diverse nation). These beliefs are rare nowadays, but still influence the culture and superstition. Adding to this, you have the influence of two abrahamic religions - in the north is a significant Islamic population, and in the south, Christianity largely imported (and enforced) by the British. I can’t speak for the Islamic beleifs, but as was the case in many other places, the Christian beliefs imported and enforced were generally more conservative and extreme, and less allowed to change.
As well as this, the brutality of both regional warlords, colonization, then multiple different military dictatorships that followed, and now an ineffective government where terrorism and organized crime are common, lead many people to become more religious. Even now with a (relatively) stable and calm government, churchs and mosks are still one of the only sources for social assistance and security in communities. At the same time, the central positon of these churches leads to them being very corrupt and greedy, often being run more like a cult than a church as we tend to think of one. At the same time, in the modern world, this greed mean they also take in a lot of money from influential “Christian” organizations, for example, a lot of very rich, very political Anerican mega-churches, and will happily bend their teachings to appease wealthy donors.
All of this has led to Nigeria being effectively a perfect storm for homophobia and religious discrimination despite being (relatively) free.
thank you for the answer
Given the statistics, even gays are homophobes there
well, they are probably scared shitless if presented with the questionnaire and they prefer not to draw unwanted attention to themselves.
Not a lot of gay orgies at least
It’s likely religion doing its thing again
Heritage foundation.
Time travel
Even in progressive countries like norway thats one in ten people think that homosexuality is never or rarely ok. Insane. Thats so many people. Its a minority, sure, but its still common.
Unfortunately every country has their low-water-mark percentage of irredeemable bigots. Thankfully most of them tend to live out in the middle of nowhere, away from civilised people.
Problem is that those people have the internet now…
Christians aren’t people.
You wish it was about religion. In Poland most of homophobes I know aren’t religious in any way and Poland is/was religious country.
They hate them cuz they’re different and easy to hate for laughs. “I have nothing for gays. Not even respect, hehehe” etc.
Here all the fuckers who want me killed¹ are christian, and it’s the main vector for homophobic propaganda, still probably the main vector for transphobic.
¹before they meet me
You should modify that to “belongs to a backwards branch of a religion”
Christians in my country are mostly LBQT-friendly. (These are not the fundamentalisic US kind of christians though).
Muslims on the other hand… some serious fraction are homophobes…Religion in general isn’t great, but they’re much less vile when they’re a persecuted minority.
Eeeeeh, it’s just as likely to turn them into extremist fanatics.
Which thry become if you dont step on them.
I think I’ve made this comment before but I’m always amused at the phrasing of homosexuality being rarely justified.
So gay sex is WRONG and you’ll go to HELL for your DEBAUCHE…wait 😳 he’s cute! 😍 ok god will let you off this time ☺️.
it’s common sense that homosexuality is acceptable when it’s between two hot women /s
Or as ancient Romans and Greeks it’s justified if you’re fucking a guy in the ass, but not when you’re taking it in the ass.
Just a phase, jada-jada, while a half-in tip dip from behind is an armed break-and-enter robbery, character ass-ass-ination even, get-shot-on-the-spot crime.
It is also acceptable when there are no female holes around, or when you’re only gay for pay /s
Japan with the massive turnaround. Netherlands chill AF as usual.
Netherlands chill AF as usual.
Probably comes from legalising weed. They got better things to worry about xD
Does anyone know why Argentina was/is so progressive compared to its neighbors like Brazil and Chile?
My guess: Larger % of people living in city centers vs rural areas. A quick glance at population data over time seems to back that up, but you know what they say about correlation.
Maybe has something to do with the type of colonisation in each country. Argentina had its first university in 1613, while Brazil had its first in 1808. Brazil as a colonial project kept its extractivist nature for a lot longer.
It’s a really good question, I’m from Argentina and I don’t have a solid answer. Like someone else said the colonization and history is likely to be part of the reason, but I would like to remark that Argentina has a lot more influence from Italy, Spain, Germany and France, and also Jewish ( iirc Buenos Aires used to be the city with the largest jewish population after New York in the 90’s). It’s a very different cultural melting pot compared to any other country in South America.
Interesting! How are the county’s vibes regarding immigrants? Im always looking for a backup county in case my current one goes to shit again :)
In general the culture is very much ‘you do you’. People mind their own business and don’t discriminate much. There is some animosity towards immigrants from some neighboring countries, but you would already know if that was your demographic. Occasionally you find some disdain towards English-speaking immigrants, but I would say that’s overshadowed by admiration in general.
Overall I’d say the vibe is positive.
The main concern with Argentina isn’t discrimination but economic instability, corruption, and high crime rates. Buenos Aires, its capital, is rough. If you are seriously considering it, my suggestion would be pick another province and ideally bring your own work as a freelancer or similar, because making money can be challenging.
Argentina used to be first world as well, for whatever that’s worth.
I mean, Br and CL made a lot more progress. What gets to me is Mr Latam LGBT is behind Argentina by one measily point
Didn’t know the world excludes all of Africa except Nigeria where homophobia is still very much a thing. Hell my ex was Zulu and my current girlfriend is Kenyan. Homophobia is alive and well in everywhere that was conveniently left our? Lol
The data appears to be very incomplete for Africa. Hit the play button, then scroll through dates.
I’d be curious to see the changes. Nigeria got worse, but did the rest of the countries? Even this one has a lot where the majority are still homophobic, despite the decline.
It’s the fault of missionaries, that like to spread homophpbia alongside of their “charity” actions. I’d personally would blacklist any such churches and NGOs, for “funding genocide abroad”, but that would also include a pretty bad genocide happening now.
thats great :3
now show the islamic countries😁
Did not expect Japan that high up, I guess the gay mangas had an effect.
Hey I’m not saying if has anything to do with the fact that manga publishers started printing futanari stories more openly in the mid 80’s…
But I’m also not not saying it’s related…
What a weird and confusing way to phrase that.
I didn’t expect China to score well but sheesh
AFAIK the government is the issue there, not cultural attitudes. Their politicians don’t use it as a weapon, but I could be wrong.
government is the issue there, not cultural attitudes
Ehh… Not really. Homophobia is just different in East Asian cultures. A lot of Asian people don’t really care if someone they don’t know is gay, but are incredibly harsh towards their own family members if they come out. Pretty much all East Asia is still extremely culturally conservative and still holds onto Confucianist social values like abiding to strict social expectations.
Good they did not include Bangladesh. It would be all Red. Peoples view did not change.
They included Nigeria instead, where it rose from 94% to 96%
Suspicious absence of all MENA countries.
Gotta love the Dutch. <3
“Homosexuality can never… be justified.” is an odd choice, but I’m sure that’s what nets some positive responses in various cultures. I wonder how the reverse question would poll - “Homosexuality requires justification.”.
I think the reverse is “Homosexuality can almost always or always be justified”. Then as a further “If yes, does homosexuality require justification?” can be added.
The opposite to yours would be “Homosexuality doesn’t require justification” which would likely have different results.
I think a direct link to the data/source should be required while posting in this community. Sure, it would reduce submissions but the quality will be much higher.
