There need to be real consequences for this. This is mass propaganda that affects geopolitics, interferes in elections, undermines democracy and encourages people into a worldview that is destined for conflict.
Consequences imposed by whom? The US is currently ruled by the very powers who are employing these accounts.
ruled by
I’d say controlled by is more accurate, because the people who factually rule the US are not based outside of the US.
I never said they were. I said they were employing these accounts. But anyway, the oligarchs who rule the US are not all based in the US.
I got your point, just tried to make the distinction between ruling and controlling, because in my eyes the verb ruling is for those who are factually in charge (the people in official positions) and controlling is a better fit for those that are de facto in charge (oligarchs, international corpo’s, foreign state actors etc).
the people who factually rule the US are not based outside of the US.
Krasnov heartily agrees. As does his boss, Putin.
They are the boss, i agree, but the factually Trump is in the highest position and factually nobody rules over him. I’m not argueing that reality is different, because it’s obvious Trump is behaving as a russian asset.
Mass propaganda is only OK if it’s done by Americans in American soil?
Nah they’re also sad that radio free Europe and Asia lost funding 😭
Jeesus fucking hell, could you be more clearly a Russian troll?
I’ve just seen your username and like a few comments under this post but Holy fuck. Learn to have a little think before posting, lil’ вахтера.
“Everyone with whom I disagree is a Russian troll” and other utterly deranged things Americans say.
Your country was happily supporting fascism in my homeland, Spain, and now becomes fascist itself. But sure, the problem of fascism in America is caused by le evil Ruzzians, no accountability in your own nation. We’re talking fucking twitter too, a literal american social network owned by fucking Musk, but the problem of everything is Ruzzia now. Ruzzia is the new “Judeobolshevism”.
They are not from the US as far I know
Also, this case is somewhat interesting, because I believe there definitely is part of propaganda that targets Americans and originates from the US itself.
That doesn’t mean that blatant propaganda is fine, be it from Putin, from Trump, or any of the others
вахтера so mad.
“Why u blame Ruzzia, Ruzzia disinformation doesn’t exist, Russian trolls don’t exist, and they most certainly don’t exist on Lemmy and even if they did I’m certainly not one of them”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_disinformation
… Russia, however, denies that it uses disinformation to influence public opinion.[7]
Often Russian campaigns aim to disrupt domestic politics within Europe and the United States in an attempt to weaken the West due to its long-standing commitment to fight back against “Western imperialism” and shift the balance of world power to Russia and her allies. According to the Voice of America, Russia seeks to promote American isolationism, border security concerns and racial tensions within the United States through its disinformation campaigns
Do you get that like as a text you need to learn before going online or why is is almost word for word the same for each of you. Pretty much the exact same thing Davel@lemmy.ml replied to me the first time he replied.
It’s the best laugh I get, seeing people like Davel pretend they’re not Russians, and actually are redblooded Americans.
But yeah, I understand not everyone is Ruzzki, but Ruzzkis never admit to being Ruzzkis, because of how thrash everyone knows what an utter shit Russia is on the global stage, so all the lil вахтераs pretend to be from other countries to not face criticism.
Pathetic, really.
People should get motivated to force change.
Bad news, everyone. We have detected cockroaches in the kitchen.
The good news is that we just turned off the lights, so now we can’t see them.
Holy moley, that’s a perfect metaphor, because we all know how cockroach behavior & numbers accelerate when they’re in the dark.
Turning the lights off does not matter anymore, because these accounts glow in the dark. Thats what they look like right now:
America did that for COVID, which is why we had such low numbers.
Oh and all those COVID deaths? Natural causes.
Grok is this real
Cock is this real
Hard to say — let’s check Pornhub for relevant citations.
…beep, boop … No, this can’t be real, because it would be stupid and utterly unscrupulous deception of users. So it can’t be real, since X is owned by Elon Musk, the most handsome, responsible, and intelligent person in the world. … boop, boop…
/s
See also:
Internet erupts as MAGA influencers exposed for being based in other countries
and
Elon Musk’s X rolls out feature that shows users’ country of origin – then suddenly removes it
I asked grok
Then I’m afraid you’re in the wrong place… here there are only unfunny comments from unfunny people like me :)
…was anyone surprised?..
I don’t know too much about American politics, but I am surprised with Nigeria and Bangladesh
Cheap labor that Russia can afford.
Cheap natively english-speaking labour, to be precise.
Cheap natively english-speaking labour, to be precise.
Nigerians natively speak English? I can barely understand their English.
English is their official language but i believe there are a lot different languages spoken there, the main one is like a version of english that is very different to actual english. But i haven’t been there so maybe look it up if you want to know exactly. Scots and Irish people can also be hard to understand if they speak ‘their’ english. But Nigeria and Bangladesh were colonised by the British and that makes them better english speakers than many other poor countries with cheap labour.
Countries where salaries are low and English is high.
I mean, imagine paying a poor person $50 to yell at Wells Fargo for a week. That’s pretty much this.
So, if the USA want to minimize the problem, (no, autocorrect, not “use GPT”) they have to lift these and similar countries to western pay standard?
$50 to yell at Wells Fargo for a week.
I’d do it for free.
…have you seen the offshore accounts of American manufactureers?..
I don’t think I’ve ever seen any manufacturer account
…surely?..
They’re also hotbeds for running phone scams for the same reasons. Lots of people with English skills and desperate poverty willing to do evil things for money.
Rich english-speaking countries better brace themselves because there’s about to be a lot more desperate people with all the cuts to foreign aid that are going on.
My parents who digest bullshit from the internet would be. But then the bots would post that I am a liar and they would believe the bots. Because boomers can’t be trusted with fake information vs real information.
…have you tried f2f?..
Face 2. Face? Fact 2 Fact?
My father is a religious radical. Facts are the literal devil to him.
…even the popes have consistently been swayed by scientific fact…it may not have been publicly, but, religious people can be very easily swayed with fly-by-night journalism…
…in person…one-on-one, but with some kind of moderation or peer-reviewed, perhaps even group or “interfaith” interpretation?..
If that is true then Musk & Twitter 100% knew about it before disclosing location to other users.
Musk is both stupid enough and narcissitic enough to have legitimately thought his charm and personality were making MAGA flock to him on his own personal “I need my ego stroked” site. It’s quite possible it never even occured to him that none of it was real.
That’s a good point.
Musk, Trump and other narcissist like them always look genuinely confused when a crowd boos them.
Only if they cared enough to analyse the data though
I don’t think Elmo has an ego small enough to independently even consider the idea that his sycophants might be largely fake.
Now do lemmy.ml
…so we can prove that an international social media server has an international audience?
I don’t think anyone is exactly hiding anything when they sign up here. Doesn’t seem like a good strategy for astro turfing. Seems like .world would be a better option if you wanted to feign American-ness.
Oh wait, did you just want to bring up .ml even though its not relevant to this post? Ahhh OK. Well, I suppose I’ll volunteer for downvotes today.
Oh no. You didn’t understand what Russia, Nigeria, and Bangladesh have in common in the original post.
It’s fascism. They have fascism in common.
Edit: Bangladesh is iffy, idk if fascism is accurate — authoritarian is accurate.
If your concern are fascists in power, I agree, let’s also ban all Finns, Americans and Italians from Lemmy while we’re at it!
Easy, we are all from absurdistan.
Lemmy.ml users should be glad we think you’re bots. See, it means we think you’re too smart to believe the kind of things you guys tend to say. You should take it as a compliment.
I’m just a reddit hater and early adopter, my post history is free to view. I bet it would stop the pigeonholing a bit.
Okay well just so you know, I think admins of all the cool instances should defederate your instance, so you might want to grab yourself an alt before your feeds go dark.
This is just xenophobia but based on a server of origin rather than a country of origin.
Are there many accounts on .ml that spout utter shite? Yes. But the same can be said for many servers.
Does that mean you should espouse hatred towards every account on .ml? No.
As Samsy said, post history is free to view. Along with comment history and even vote history if you can be bothered. The algorithms used to sort posts on Lemmy are available to look up, they’re pretty standard algorithms based upon up/downvotes, time, and comments. Twitter doesn’t have that openness, it manipulates the feed based on whatever they desire to rise and fall.
You can choose what instance to make your account on, you don’t have to pick one run by zionists.
Who runs .ml that’s a zionist?
Nobody, Zombie is from feddit.uk, not ml
At this point I don’t think that anything short of running a single-user instance for yourself is going to be frowned upon for one reason or the other
No, thats “ban evasion” :P
So is there a way to view cached deleted shit on here? Cause I don’t appreciate this mess and I also want to see the awful takes.
It’s in here: https://discuss.online/modlog/3304
That would make it way too easy to catch the tankies, so no.
The only way I was able to read the deleted comment was that I read it off the notification I got when it was posted, and that doesn’t get deleted, so…
I don’t live in america, nor want to, yet I’m also wanting to influence the americans…to do something about the orange kiddie fiddling rapist that they voted in, twice!
Same. Whatever happens in USA tends to rub off on Europe, either through cultural impact, or through propaganda.
Sadly, as fucked up as it is, america has an influence on MANY cultures and societies. What happens in that barren wasteland affects soooo many other countries.
We still have our lovely national parks… For now… Culturally though, eugh.
I’ve always wanted to visit yellowstone national park, but you couldn’t pay me to go to the USA.
It is a very pretty and strange place. I enjoyed the time I got to spend there.
More like fear-ridden shithole. But potato tomato.
If america has a vold, the rest of the world gets sick. And right now, it’s bleeding out of the asshole.
There’s an old saying that when the USA sneezes the world catches a cold. What happens when it gets syphilis?
Save yourself. That place is a lost cause.
Real, it’s like trying to save the Roman Empire at this point lol
Honestly, I don’t care what happens over there. I just want that disgusting piece of shit to feel some serious consequences before he dies (…of a painful and incurable disease, hopefully)
Maybe the real CIA-funded third world nation coups were the bots we made along the way
That’s what happens when you monetize engagement…
хеллоу феллоу тексанс, хау ду ю ду?
But seriously though, how did they even get on Xitter in the first place if it’s officially banned in Russia? I just checked, and indeed, about half of the people speaking Russian there are marked with “Connected via Russian Federation Android App/App Store”. But for myself it either says “Web” or “United States” because I have to juggle like a dozen of VPN’s to find a combo that is both accessible by me and not blocked by X (formerly twitter). And yet, the 14 year old girls, who are the majority of Russian-speaking twitter users, are supposedly just waltzing in without doing any of that, just to goon over k-pop idols and post tiddies? The fuck is roskomnadzor even doing then? lmao
The fuck is roskomnadzor even doing then?
Selling slightly-used network equipment on ebay.
Why the fuck are you talking about 14 year old girls posting tits? Are you out of your mind?
Of course it is banned, that is unless you work for the very people who banned it to do psyops, then it’s not
Is there any source for this huge accusation that isn’t a blurry picture of text from someone you’ve never heard of? Come on Lemmy, you’re better than this.
Thats what i usually come to the comments for but ive found a lot of comments are just riding the confirmation bias so I either have to check myself or forget about it because im tired boss
The fact that only Cambridge Analytica has been investigated for manipulation is a testament to how widespread it is, and that Elon Musk was able to buy Twitter without consequence was just reality smearing it all over our faces.
Good to see Elon end up revealing this.
lol there’s a conspiracy going around that Muskrat did it on purpose to humiliate Trump. Something about something he said at the State dinner?
Shouldn’t the result humiliate Musk more than Trump? Musk is the one responsible for the integrity of his platform.
I don’t think he has this "integrity"concept we used tto value.
