• LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
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    Americans can understand if you phrase it differently.

    “You know how sometimes, you go to a big event, and the parking is so far away from the event that they have to ferry people from the parking lots to the event using a bus? Well, this is just like that, except you park at home.”

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    In America, you have thousands in tiny cars. Weak and undisciplined, unable hold more than four people.

    In Germany, one big car on a long steel road carries thousands of people.

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    There is actually a parking garage below. But you are really incentivised not to come by car, but by public transport. The tram tracks are just out of shot.

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    It still blows my mind when I look at Dutch intersections in Google’s street view. They managed to fit cars, bike lanes, and even commuter trains into their intersections without any issue.

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      In the US, you can only choose 2 of those things. Add a third, someone is going to die.

      I have a buddy that went to Amsterdam. He’s a bigger dude and the FIRST thing he told me about his trip was “you have to fucking bike everywhere”. Sounded wonderful to me but his tone of voice suggested otherwise.

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        I even don’t know what he’s getting at - I’ve never had access to a bike the many times I have been there. Transit and walking are also perfectly viable options and there are still cars outside the center

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          Every time I visit Amsterdam, first thing I do is take a ferry to Overhoeks, grab a patatje with saté sauce and then proceed to walk through Amsterdam for 8 hours straight. Every time I take different routes. What I’m trying to say here is, it’s a damn fine walkable city.

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          It’s almost like it’s not black and white. Like I work in a major city. I can walk and bus everywhere I want. But I live in the “countryside”, as far as The Netherlands still has “countryside”, and there’s nothing in walking distance, a few local commodities in biking distance, but I have to take the car for anything serious (like a decent supermarket).

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            I have a similar situation here in a German village. There are a few supermarkets in 5km distance and more supermarkets + a train station in 10km. But I’m already on the denser country side with having 12 villages in a 5km radius.

            I think our bus service is okay as long as it’s not night, weekend or a holiday. With something coming every hour and for 3h half-hourly during afternoon rush hour. How is your bus service?

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              We don’t have a bus, but busses in my area are not fantastic. The coverage is very sparse, with few direct lines. So if you want to go one town over (5km), it might take you an hour or more, because you always have to go through the regional centre (small city).

              My town does have a train station, which takes me to the closest big city in 30 minutes (20km). That train departs every 15 minutes, except for weekends and nights. I can’t conplain too much about the train service, except that it m’s not very fast. But there’s plans to run a fast line as well, an “intercity”

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                We have people that live in a state called Rhode Island, which is 16x smaller than the Netherlands. It’s insane to hear them bitch about not having a car.

                *I’m only comparing the Netherlands to a US state (not country) because Texas is 20x larger than the Netherlands.

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            These kinds of posts are ignorant at best and elitist at worst. The reality is that mass transit is great for specific living conditions and locations. If you don’t fit into that then it’s worthless and you will need a car. Either these people somehow aren’t aware, or they think that everyone should live like they do.

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      They made a new tram lane in Germany, right at the border, and the tram crosses the pretty busy border. I was like: well that’s neat and solves a lot of problems. They put the tram lane on the road and now the tram sits in traffic too

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    On a christmas markets or similar action i usually go to drink som alcoholic beverages how does it work in us if you have to drive home?

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      Options are:

      Stay at a friends place

      Have someone drive you

      Get an uber/lyft/taxi

      Drive drunk anyway

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      There’s a reason we have so many drunk driving accidents. The responsible groups will designate one person to not drink at all so they can drive. You’ll see Uber or Lyft a little bit more now too.

      Basically everyone just gambles with other people’s lives.

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      @Fabrik872 @Sine_Fine_Belli Though we’re not the majority, there are plenty of USians who don’t live in sprawl hell and there’s probably some correlation between going to public downtown events and living and/or working near downtown. Suburbanites who commute to a downtown office are likely to be somewhat more familiar with transit options than their neighbors who never leave suburbia.

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    Usually it’s transit + walking + park-and-ride, not ‘giant garage under the market.’ When the space is for people, you don’t need to store cars there.

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    The worst part is when my fellow Americans are very “we tried nothing and we’re out of ideas” about it. Or worse, actively fighting any changes.

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    Sadly, from my experience in my German city we don’t have the upper hand here. All streets in the city center are completely overcrowded between 4 and 10 pm during our christmas market season. Same with parking garages near the city center.

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      To be fair, that’s also then a big motivation to take public transport, when you know you won’t find a parking spot. Kind of difficult to fix that without people rushing in to unfix it.

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      Weird I’m in the UK and have the image… ah, forget that, while I’m not on vpn now I was earlier and it must have cached

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      Holy shit… im in uk visiting. Had no idea this is what the internet is like now.

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    The American reaction will either be confusion or envy, there is no in-between.

    I’m the latter.