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      No person needs permission from a leader to vote.

      Leaders are elected first in the hearts and minds of the people and then at the ballot box.

      A leader can try to take away the ballot box, but they can’t take away people’s will and leaders who forget this will ultimately lose one way or another.

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      If you’re in a state with mail-in voting, you need the federal government to carry those ballots, and he just told USPS to interfere, so

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      We need to fight back against the hurdles and vote. Don’t let this get us down and maybe we can get the message out as to what people need to do the get over the hurdles they’re creating.

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    As I’ve said, many a time, once dictatorship’s instantiated, he’ll not just remove the vote from all non-Republicans, he’ll de-naturalize all non-Republicans, then they can be ICE’d…

    making it criminal to do ANY trade with “illegals”/woke.

    I found out that he & Miller had a 1-MILLION deportations quota on ICE, for their 1st year…

    You’re too far in nazi territory, when you’re doing that kind of shit … there’s no pretending that away, any more than there’s any pretending-away Israel’s admission that it’s annexing territory from Lebanon, once it’s got Hamas controlled/down…

    Putin, Trump, Netanyahu, Millei… same fundamental-values, they’re demonstrating…

    & the fools who are “certain” that social-pressure will prevent the tippingpoint from being crossed…

    …solving the wrong problem, while helping the enemy that is walking our world into its “secondary-crime-scene”, for our world’s butchery…

    The Great Filter’s actual! This century is it…

    _ /\ _

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      Stumbling onto this comment late from a route I barely remember now lol - do you write anywhere? I’d read it probably, I’ve randomly come across a few of your comments by now that are insightful and deliciously dense.

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        Can’t yall just make it easy and emigrate, eventually? That way they can just be in their own little secluded isolated delusional pedophilic dystopia they so yearn to have? At this point majority of the world dislikes anything US already, the damage is done. Going to taje decades to reverse.

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          You can’t move 100M anywhere for a lot of reasons.

          • You don’t want to have a corresponding loss of whites defeating the purpose especially if its your more skilled and valuable people leaving first.
          • You don’t want them taking their wealth with them
          • Nobody can absorb that many people not singly or even all together
          • A substantially portion will refuse to leave
          • You can’t give due process to a sufficient number or yet pretend that due process doesn’t exist

          If you let it play out naturally you’ll have concentration camps, a death toll that would shame Hitler, and nobody coming to the rescue because nobody invades a nuclear armed nation. After that you’ll have a psychotic insane dictatorship threatening all of you and potentially touching off Armageddon after threatening everyone and attacking some of you.

          The uninvolved can still die of starvation after the bombs drop.

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            Yeah, a hundred million people displacing to…wherever is going to put a lot of refugee crises to shame. Even a tenth of that would constitute a huge problem. I feel that this is Miller trying to pretext death camps and mass murder.

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      I definitely get and feel similarly, and I guess this aint a bright spot but unless things change drastically and rapidly so there are very few places on the planet that will be able to serve as a refuge for the pain coming over the next few years. The best we can all hope for is that the US collapses rapidly before the technofeudalists and christofascists can further cement control

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        Keep your options open, there is still time for it to be preferable to America. I have faith in Trump that he will make things much worse.

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    I wake up every single day thanking the stars I’m not an American. What a fucking disaster this country is. Vote for a rapist, get raped, I guess.

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      You think the oligarchs that put Trump in office will stop with the US? Better keep an eye on your own politicians

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        At least I didn’t grow up having to do active shooter drills in school and I don’t live in fear of risking bankruptcy for a trip to the hospital or praying that my employer doesn’t wake up feeling like firing me.

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              Yeah yeah thats great and completely misses the point. See you in five years when you are blind sided.

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                I’m not missing the point. It takes a special kind of misery to tell someone “you’ll be like us in 5 years”.

                And even though I may, I would have still lived a better life without having been forcefed a bunch of propaganda about being the pinnacle of human history.

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                  You’ve got blinders on. I’m trying to warn you that you are not immune. Canadian’s especially have their foot coming in the door we just walked through. Capitalism always turns into faacism, always.

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                Probably more like in 10-15 years, but yeah. They’re definitely missing the point. 20-30 years ago nobody would have thought something like modern day America could have happened.

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                  I mean people did, they’ve been ringing the alarm bells since the 70s. Its happening in Canada too. Anywhere a corporation lurks under capitalism is in danger of becoming what we are. Be vigilant. Dont be capitalist.

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          The saddest part is you’re so gleeful about it. I wouldn’t wish Trump on any other nation. But I guess shiity people will wish harm on others, instead of lifting them up…

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    Elections are 100% controlled by the states, there is nothing they can do to force states to comply with this stupid shit. Trump is an utter fucking moron.

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      A bunch of states are going to kowtow to him anyway, a judge is going to declare it unconstitutional, Trump’s going to throw a hissyfit & bomb Djibouti or some shit as distraction and Congress is going to pass it anyway.

      Trump is an utter moron, being supported by utter morons, with utter morons calling rational people “the real morons” for daring to ask “wait, what?”

      I’m tired, and I can’t weld good enough to make a Killdozer…

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        I don’t think you need to be a very good welder for that particular project.

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          My “welding” experience consists of soldering parts onto circuit boards. I don’t think that will help much with thick steel plates. Can’t have a Killdozer that falls apart mid rampage.

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    States are well within their power to ignore most of this. They don’t answer to the executive branch.

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      The elephant in the room is him ordering the postal service not to deliver ballots from people not on the federal approved voter list. The postal service isn’t state ran. Trump doesn’t have direct control over who the post master is, but the board that selects the post master is mostly empty seats so I guess he could flood it with sycophants with support from congress and appoint a new post master if this one puts up any resistance.

      It also seeks to bar the U.S. Postal Service from sending absentee ballots to those not on each state’s approved list.

      Legal experts noted other potential flaws with the order. David Becker, a former Justice Department lawyer who leads the Center for Election Innovation and Research, said the Postal Service is run by a board of governors [not state governors] and the president has no power to tell it what mail it can and cannot deliver.

      A spokesperson for USPS said Tuesday the agency will review the order. Trump has sought to bring the independent agency under more presidential control, proposing to fold it under the Commerce Department — whose secretary, Howard Lutnick, was on hand for Tuesday’s signing.

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        The USPS can be bypassed through strategic and frequent placement of ballot dropboxes. I already didn’t use the postal service after the bullshit Trump tried to pull in 2020. It’s better to use the dropboxes in every way except for one, and in my case it’s only a block to get to the dropbox so it doesn’t even apply.

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          Look for them to seize these along with mail in ballots not on the approved list. We are going to end up either accepting Republicans after they fix the election or taking action.

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    Democrats are currently furrowing their brows, drafting stern letters, and making appeals to norms and traditions.

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      they got to ride that thin line of not alienating the fence sitters of genocide and not genocide, and still pretend to care to feed their vote blue no matter who base

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      What do you need to do?

      This EO has all of the legal weight of a blog post.

      Article 4 Section 1

      Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

      The only groups that have power over elections is the State and Congress.

      Trump can draft an EO declaring himself king of mars. He can write anything in an EO, he’s the E. A state can simply ignore it, it has no chance of surviving a motion for a TRO.

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    Trump can make all the lists he wants, he doesn’t get to say shit about how the states run their elections or decide whether or not he accepts their results. Those results are officially certified by the electors of each state and Congress counts the electoral votes, NOT Trump. Federal office holders cannot be electors.

    We literally had an attempted coup on Jan 6th 2020 to prevent those electors from doing their jobs. They were unsuccessful.

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    You all fucktards voted for the dude. Now suffer the consequences. Better you than us.

    Regards, The rest of the world.

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          It reminds me of when COVID hit

          And some of my most liberal friends were dead ass saying shit like “if these people keep coming to our state and not masking up we need to build a fucking wall or something.”

          … 😐

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            which is kinda redic because you can madate masks in law. If its not mandated then why are you worrying about out of staters and if it is then they are not allowed in places anyway.

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        Other than the fucktards part what exactly is Maga’ish in that comment?

        Did the us not have a vote?

        Should only other countries suffer the consequences of that vote, and the us population should be exempt from the actions of that vote? (or their inactions of them not voting/protest voting)

        The above comment was coarse, I agree. But it wasn’t incorrect in my view.

        Edit: yanks always trying to blame others for their fucking bullshit.

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          1. Some of the US had a vote. Voter suppression tactics is pretty much how Trump eked out his 2nd “victory.” We had election interference: closing down poll stations in areas with low income people more likely to vote democratic, forcing them out of the election process through economic pressure. Passing rules that basically ensured you couldn’t vote unless you could take the whole day off and and be well fed for it (since people providing people water in line now broke the rules), long lines meant polls closed before everyone got to vote on Election Day, casting doubt on the integrity of the election and vote by mail system (which he’s still doing), making quid-pro-quo threats and demands for states to “find” votes, people finding their voter registrations mysteriously removed or changed, forcing them to reregister and possibly miss their chance to vote, rampant gerrymandering so democratic districts where divvied into majority Republican districts. Then there was foreign interference on social media, social manipulation experimentation from social media conglomerates like meta, domestic spying, met a new generation of e-propaganda… Trust me, most Americans know what he is and despise him. Real Americans are the people who brought you Friends and How I Met Your Mother. We believe in liberty and civil rights. We’re proud of our kinship with our historic allies, and now many of us ashamed to even admit we’re American when abroad. I lived in Malta for four years, and I was constantly referred to as “one of the good ones” because I wasn’t shy about my opinions on Trump. The more I ponder on this the longer this part of my response gets so I’ll leave it here.

          2. Nobody’s saying other countries should suffer consequences of US elections, it’s just an unfortunate circumstance of US global dominance. I believe other counties are doing the smart thing by reducing their reliance on US corporations and embracing more open-source alternatives. And anyone saying that Americans should be exempt from those consequences is irrelevant, because the fact of the matter is that Americans ARE suffering the consequences. People are getting brutalized and murdered by ICE in illegal raids, protesters are getting cataloged on ICE devices… which could be convenient for more voter suppression measures by the Trump regime.

          So let’s revisit the original question. What is maga’ish in that comment?

          It is dismissive, judgmental and standoffish. It is vengeful. It lacks understanding of cultural and historical context. It is narrow minded. It stereotypes all Americans into a singular group of voter. It encourages others to hate Americans.

          And finally, you’re not doing yourself any favors with the “yanks always…” crash out comment. This is precisely the kind of sentiment you’d expect a mag-hat would have if you just replace “yank” with the n word or some other derogatory term.

          Does this make sense?

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          You fundamentally misunderstandUnited States politics if you think Trump is responsible for making any important decisions. He is a combination between a scapegoat and a front man.

          If we had elected anyone else, the present international policies would be largely the same. It’s the beauty of a two party system that is financed by corporate lobbying.

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      The kind of people that hold a grudge against a citizenry for its politicians are the exact kind of smooth-brain shit stains that create these messes.

      You’re literally running propaganda for fascism in your post

      Hope you’re proud.

      Tagged as “loves fascism”

      Edit: wow that didn’t go well for you, huh? Anyways your responses from here show you’re clearly proud. Like a good little fascist.

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        In a place where elections don’t happen, or are obviously rigged? Sure, mostly agree. In the US, though, tens upon tens of millions of people gleefully, zealousy voted for Trump. When Biden was in the primaries with Bernie lots of the supposed “left” voted for Biden even before the DNC really got fucky with it.

        US citizens really need to understand that it’s not enough to be acting like stupid, scared little babies who can’t be held accountable because they had a surprising amount of control over the situation for decades and yet still let this happen mostly voluntarily. As a Canadian who has always voted progressive, it’s the same situation here, arguably worse in some ways because we’ve even had a viable third party option the whole time. Our two countries are embarrassing, and acting like a dude saying “not all men” whenever someone expresses anger over our collective actions doesn’t help anyone.

        I’m sure all those Palestinian/Iranian/Lebanese people killed by US/Israeli strikes, with unconditional help from Canadian resources, would really love to hear how it wasn’t your fault, specifically.

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          there is a far left that goes so far it ends up helping the right. Much of the issue was non voting as well as the trumpholes voting for facism.

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            Why didn’t those people vote? It wasn’t because Harris was a progressive and they thought she wasn’t progressive enough, it was because she was already just a corpo centrist and refusing to acknowledge the genocide in Gaza was the nail in the coffin. All she had to do was say the truth and she refused.

            And then she fucked off immediately, leaving everyone else to the GOP because actually caring isn’t her style.

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              yup and so we got trump and the gendocide in gaza has never been better. the palestinians rejoiced at the comfort brought by their friends in the us.

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                Sure, I don’t disagree with that and I probably would have voted if I were in the US. At some point, though, it’s not the fault of people who refuse to vote for the controlled opposition. They’re sick of the cycle, sick of this “strategic” voting crap, and sick of lending their voices to the validation of major human rights violations. I really cannot blame them for their decision.

                The US clinging to false, centrist comfort instead of doing the uncomfortable thing to get shit done is a big reason why they’re in this mess.

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                  if america was centerist that would be great but its not where we are at. The anti centerist prefer extreme right.

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                  There you go running propaganda for fascists again.

                  This guy fucking loves telling people fighting for democracy that there is no hope. Just like any good fascist propagandist.

                  Fuck outta here.

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      This is likely to highly impact the people who did not vote for him. Including those of us who actively campaigned against him and have been taking action against him since he was elected.

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    And the wheels of justice shall turn slowly. In December 2027, they’ll rule that people should have been allowed to vote in November 2026

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    Fuck, this whole scenario is going to end in a lot of violence isn’t it…

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    He’s absolutely gonna push congress to legislate a National Voter ID system within a month of elections, isn’t he?

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          There’s a contingent of democratic senators who are ready to relieve Chuck of his office. I think either that scares him into holding the line or his capitulation loses him the leadership position.

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          There are 44 other Senators who can kill the bill by simply stating their intent to filibuster. Even if Chuck caves.

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      Yep. He sure is, so that there’s no way it could possibly be implemented in time, and then he’ll use the resulting chaos as ‘proof’ of voting fraud