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    I’m an old man who had no idea who Macklemore was until this week. This guy is fucking cool.

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      Yes he is. I’m from Seattle so I have a little bit of a headstart on you. But his music is not only catchy but a love letter to the city and state that birthed him. Washington state is beautiful and he really captures that.

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    I find it funny that on all these Ed and Macklemore posts there’s exactly 1 downvote on all the comments.

    Somebody’s salty. I can almost see their expression as they go through every comment downvoting with full on “I’ll show them all” Nerd Rage coursing through their body.

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    When this whole drama broke like 1 or 2 days ago, reading the headlines, I was afraid I’d have to stop listening and supporting Macklemore. The headlines were vague. I’m so happy and artist I love is not a Zionist asshole

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    From further down in the article:

    Pink wrote that she was not trying to get any artist fired or silence anyone but that she took issue with Macklemore’s putting “violent images” of Israel’s military campaign in Gaza up in a stadium filled with families, then telling Jews in the audience that “it wasn’t about them.”

    She’s mad that Macklemore put up pictures of the shit that the Israeli military did? But she takes no issue with what the military itself did?

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      But she takes no issue with what the military itself did?

      That’s not what she said?

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    Worth noting that Macklemore knows Kraft won’t match it. Makes it even more of a boss move.

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        “brought young Palestinians and Israelis together to build businesses, create jobs, and forge relationships” sounds like some Supply-side Jesus bullshit way of saying “I made a fuckton of money in Israel and even deigned to hire some Palestinians to do it”

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        Kraft donated to “support the region”. Doesn’t say anything specifically about Palestine. Dude probably wrote a $2 million check to Netenyahu.

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          Settlements in Palestine need investments, the way he describes his donations reeks of dishonesty. “supported efforts to create opportunity for Palestinians” Opportunities aren’t food or shelter or aid.

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        He doubled it and apparently said he was matching Ed Sheeran’s donation, not Mackelmore’s.

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        Interesting, thanks for sharing. I guess I was wrong.

        So… this only makes me more confused, though. He shuts down Macklemore because he doesn’t want Macklemore saying “Free Palestine” in his stadium, and then turns around and supports Palestinian causes?

        Christ, I must be missing something here.

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          His PR team specifically chose the words “support the region” and ended the sentence with “I have supported efforts that create opportunity for Palestinians and have brought young Palestinians and Israelis together to build businesses, create jobs”

          For example, financing bulldozing a Palestinian village, building an illegal settlement of terrorists, then hiring some Palestinians for pennies to clean the gardens, can technically match the statement

          The Israeli Gaza “humanitarian” foundation let thousands of people die of starvation, also. Any donation to the ghf technically counted as Palestine aid, but it’s like if during WW2 there was a fundraising for food in Auschwitz

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          Boils down to Robert Kraft did not expect the PR shit show that started because he kicked Macklemore out. This blew up super fucking fast and well outside of the control of what they expected. Ed Sheeran is scrambling too.

          This looks really bad. Even Jesse Walters from Fox News is like, “he kicked him out for saying free Palestine?” He then went on to defend Robert Kraft, claiming he can kick him out for whatever reason, but even he seemed incredulous about the reason that Macklemore was kicked out.

          Robert Kraft does not want this to continue to blow up because if every fucking artist besides a few of them suddenly start refusing to go to his stadium, that’s gonna look bad. This gives him an out, saying, well, I donated two million dollars after the fact So it doesn’t look like he’s directly supporting genocide.

          It’s obvious to those of us who pay attention, but to anybody who’s not familiar with Robert Kraft, this potentially creates an out. It all about the pr message.

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              Yeah, it basically boils down to PR and Robert Kraft trying to control the message. I’m not sure why he’s trying to control the message. He’s not giving a shit about it before, given how open he is about supporting Israel and how much money he’s donated to Israel before But this clearly rattled him.

              I speculated about the artist boycott, but I mean, it could also boil down to people just boycotting him for not allowing free speech, which is a lightning rod issue in the United States.

              Or maybe it just spiraled so fast out of control that it just spooked him. Ultimately, $2 million dollars for him is a chump change. Hard to know at this point, unfortunately.

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                I’m not sure why he’s trying to control the message. He’s not giving a shit about it before, given how open he is about supporting Israel and how much money he’s donated to Israel before But this clearly rattled him.

                But now bad things are happening to him so they matter.

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          One of the last lines of the article

          Kraft later confirmed he didn’t want Macklemore performing at Gillette, which Kraft owns … accusing the rapper of crossing the line with antisemitic rhetoric and imagery.

          I find it hard to believe that Maklemore uses antisemitic rhetoric and imagery (I’m willing to change this opinion with evidence). I would believe he uses Anti-Israeli rhetoric and imagery.

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            Good! This leaves MORE Room for Noted Jew Lover Kanye West to play “Heil Hitler” at Kraft’s stadiums AGAIN!

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            I just found this today. Still not sure what to make of the costume, but Macklemore claims he didn’t intend for it to look like a Jewish caricature

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              That’s exactly what he looks like. I could see this being viewed as antisemitic. I do still wonder what the retoric was

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                It’s almost definitely antisemitic, but I suspect rather than being actual hatred, it was probably just an antisemitic joke in poor taste, and more importantly, he apologized for it in… 2014.

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                  2014! I thought that was from the current tour. People born that year will be teenagers next year. Robert Kraft associates with people who would fuck those teenagers.

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                  From what I read, he was supposedly trying to dress up in a costume inspired by Humpty Hump (of Humpty Dance fame) and wasn’t aware enough at the time to realize how fucked up it came across.

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              Macklemore is not the best messenger on this, but who is without sin?

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                I definitely wore a Halloween costume In high school I regret. I was a Sultan; thank God I didn’t try to bronze my skin…

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                  I wrapped a sheet around myself and called myself the Ayatollah and did a bad Arabic accent. In Australia in the 90s. Still bugs me that I was not only being racist, but completely ignorant of the Iranian people.

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          $2 million for a gesture probably doesn’t matter much to him.

          Especially when his actions point to him being a Zionist, the question becomes how much money has Kraft spent furthering Zionist ideals in comparison? Does it make $2 million USD look like a joke?

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          Youre missing the fact that 1 million isnt even .01% of his wealth he gave away pennies

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          yes its almost as if human beings exist on a gradient between black and white and should not be judged solely based on one single action.

          Fuck Hollywood and gaming industry for cultivating false dichotomies instead of utilizing actual good writers.

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            Dude is also in the Epstein files, where on you’re gradient is that?

            Also just because I’m feeling froggy

            yes its almost as if Hollywood and gaming industry exist on a gradient between black and white and should not be judged solely based on one single action.

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              A lot of people are in the Epstein files. John Stewart did a whole segment on this.

              The problem is your pea sized reactionary brain is looking for a target to unload its anger on and, for real … maybe try checking your self righteous indignation and look in a mirror?

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                He had the same lawyer as Epstein after Epstein suggested him to Kraft, my guy. Maybe do a modicum of research before diving into a dismissive tirade

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                  yes, guilt by association is not evidence of a crime.

                  fuck your mob mentality and fuck you because you would want the same defense I am giving Mr Kraft.

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                  sigh

                  I’m feeling froggy

                  yes its almost as if Hollywood and gaming industry exist on a gradient between black and white and should not be judged solely based on one single action.

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            No, fuck Robert Kraft and his Gillette Stadium bot farm astroturfing Islamophobia under the guise of “fighting antisemitism”

            The reason is he knows that aid probably won’t make a lick of difference. It’s like sending bread to the German Jews during the holocaust - that doesn’t do shit to stop the people killing them.

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              your simple mind can only condense human actions into false dichotomies.

              I pity you. truly

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                  ah yes the simpletons coalesce. shit sticks to itself. the universe unfolds…

                  nice double negative, lackwit.

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      In the article, they quote Kraft saying he has been a long time financial supporter of the Palestinian people.

      So we’re gonna see if his money lands where his mouth is. I have my doubts but I’m open to a happy surprise.

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        He’s a long time funder of Our Generation Speaks which is an “ex” Israeli intelligence officer who pays token Palestinians to be pro-Israel, that’s the only Palestinian thing his foundation funds.

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        I’ll admit I didn’t read the article, lol. But - hang on, if he’s a long-standing financial supporter of the Palestinian people, I’m genuinely confused as to why he’s so upset at Macklemore’s remarks.

        Are we sure he isn’t just saying whatever platitudes get him more money and support?

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    Kraft released a statement shortly after Macklemore, saying that he was contacted by Sheeran before the rapper put out his statement to ask for a $2 million match to aid in the region.

    I hate to be the “devils in the details guy”, but what region is Kraft talking about?

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    Seems like a nice chap that I can align with, definitely shouldn’t be kicked off Zionist sympathisers tours for being level headed

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    I do think corny is an appropriate word to describe him, but he has always seemed genuine and sweet as hell.