Damn never thought the gaming PC I built two years ago would actually be APPRECIATING in value over time.
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Just about all electronics older than a year or so have. Even a Switch, which came out 9 years ago, costs more to buy now than it did then!
Wait what? I still remembered it as a recent console…
I feel like my brain is stuck. When I think of most powerful GPU, my brain’s muscle memory replies with 1080 Ti.
Certainly the most powerful GPU I’ve bought! I got mine 2 years ago for about $120, and it’s been great for my docker containers!
Apple over here not raising their RAM prices because they’ve always been massively and unjustifiably inflated. Now, they’re no longer unjustifiably inflated.
I dunno. “AI companies bought literally everything” seems like an unjustifiable reason still.
Perhaps. I guess my point is they no longer are as out-of-line with the rest of the market. Comment meant as a backhanded “compliment” toward Apple.
They also buy allotments months in advance. Just waiting to see how much apple will charge soon.
I mean, they are, just for a different reason
Me to my 10 year old gaming pc: “I guess it’ll be another couple of years, buddy.”
Don’t worry, I suspect Cloud Terminals will be super cheap. You won’t even need that ol’ thing anymore!
They aren’t really making a ton of games that justify a costly upgrade anyways.
Honestly, my PC at this point plays FFXIV and that’s basically it. And I’m OK with that.
Can’t wait for yhem to push forced end of life on all computers
Microsoft tried that with TPM. Which you can bypass for the most part with Rufus and a clean install. Still some kernel anticheat games you can’t do so so easily.
I’ve already switched over to Linux, just got one more system to migrate. So far 100% worth it to not deal with Microslop.
What I am truly afraid of, is they somehow get ahold of Linux, and force slopware onto it, including that EoL bs. Keep offline devices as backup.
Uh that can’t happen with Linux. The closest you can look at is Red Hat, which doesn’t affect distros from Debian or Arch.
My computer can run heavily modded Minecraft and honestly that’s all I need.
Will it Minecraft (with mods) is also the test I apply to every system I build or buy
Same, but with Skyrim!
I agree. I recently swapped out my aging 2600x6core for a 5950x32core processor and upgraded from an 3070ti to a 5070 (well actually more of a sidegrade - my vram was simply too small). before this, my system had already a few years where there wasn’t much difference regarding gaming - In the current configuration and the glacial speed gaming developed i’d say i have a decade before upgrades are really needed.
Another couple of decades, even!
Give it a lil pat pat for good measure
Saaame. I’m still chugging along with an RTX 2060 😭
I’m running a 1070.
Same here, running my 3700X with a 3080.
I should’ve pulled the trigger on the 9800X3D last year like I wanted, but thought it was just too expensive.
Welp.
Increasing RAM (from 16) and SSD space (from .5TB) on a laptop now is easily +$1k and up.
Apple users:
for you
- posted from my Lenovo Thinkpad x250
When the yet-to-be data centers never get built because AI slop bubble pops, we will be able to build houses out of RAM sticks for the poor
Theyll just manufacture another reason to keep prices high
Ahhh the de beers technique
Slaves have become very expensive. Pay more for rock.
the problem with data center hardware is that they are often bespoke and nowadays can’t be reused in a consumer context. Think about those headless GPUs, they probably making these RAM modules with a different interface.
They will just be e-waste instead of having the possibility of being surplus.
Those headless GPUs are great for simulation work in blender and other creative tools. I’d love an opportunity to buy a good used one on the cheap.
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Ruining the PC market for consumers on purpose so people will think it’s cheaper to rent computers than to own.
In the future, you will lease your computer and not own it, just as you are told to do by the billionaires who steal your pay.
Yep cloud providers definitely came up with the AI boom in a roundabout conspiracy to end PCs. Total direct chain there.
I remember when people claimed that Socialism meant people would own nothing and like it. Turns out, they were actually describing capitalism. Granted, I don’t like one bit of this.
In the future you will connect to a corporate owned terminal and use an online hosted OS, where your files are kept in their cloud ecosystme.
US oligoarchys wants to have all computation done in their warehouse so they have to power to change any computation at any time
When I first saw “GeForce Now” that’s exactly what I imagined. Building a market for cloud computation. “Just own the display, we will rent you the brain for it”. Currently they are choking the market with orders for ram that does not exist, paid with money that does not currently exists and the output of this situation is that prices go up artificially which will eventually drive the users exactly in a scenario where they will rent out computing power “for cheap” to play that latest game for 2-3 hours.
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I’m not happy about it.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
I own about 500 rds of 9mm JHP.
Apple was overpricing RAM before it was cool.
nice profile pic! Snatcher was a gg
Thanks! I was blown away by the quality of voice work in a game back then. Combined with the story, it was a real treat.
I only watched a playthrough to be honest, because the game wasn’t available for my pc and the gameplay seemed kinda outdated, but fuck yeah! The story and voice work really rocked! I loved it as well. Don’t get me started on OST. Quite the movie material in my opinion.
I can’t believe how lucky I was to upgrade my desktop before the surge. This is an outrage!
I did my desktop but skipped my server.
Even decade+ old used surplus server DDR4 didn’t escape the apocalypse.
I did as well which is a polite way of saying I blew all my RAM savings on the how overpriced GPUs were at the time
I upgraded January last year. My only regret now is not getting 64GB of ram
Built a new PC in April 2025. 192GB DDR5 for 650€. This is totally insane.
Same … I hadn’t upgraded since 2012, and had some extra cash, so rebuilt in August. Feeling pretty lucky to have done it then, and really glad I went ahead and put 64GB RAM in it.
You waited a long time holy shit. I regret not getting 64 gb in 2024 when I did my current build.
Yea, the 2012 build was a 3770k with 16 gb ram, multiple SSDs, a GTX680, etc. So it was a pretty fast machine back in the day.
I upgraded the video card and SSD drives several times, just didn’t have the budget to replace it all at once for a long time.
That processor was nice overclocked for a while so I am not surprised.
Same. Feel like I could sell my rig for more than it cost me a 18 months ago.
Minus the case and video card, I have an entire 3rd gen i7 machine sitting in a box that would actually make a pretty good machine for a lot of different uses.
Me too, I added more than I could use because today’s gaming rig is tomorrow’s server. Now I’m debating if I should sell a few sticks but who knows when, if ever, I’ll be able to replace them.
TBF that is a crucial ram stick in the picture, those are rare shinies now
Not at microcenter. Their bundles are full of crucial chips. Just built one for a buddy last week.
I more meant now they’re not being made because Micron recently killed the Crucial brand to focus supply towards data center customers
I’m well aware, but everybody knows the HBM demand will dry up eventually and that eventually the consumer market will be worth trying to profit from again.
They just want to manipulate the consumer market to maximize margins. If they can get memory prices to stay at 200-300% for a while, they can up the prices they charge and raise margins to stratospheric heights not before seen on the consumer market. All manufacturers jump on stuff like this when they can get away with it.
Memory manufacturers still order from micron directly for their own branded chips. Those margins will increase for all parties. Ai data center demand is like Christmas for the entire industry. No pricing is transparent and every vendor is profiteering.
Same shit as groceries and toilet paper etc staying high after the vaccine. Fuck the corpos.
Wixh I stocked up on RAM early. Easy escape from poverty.
Built my new PC in late 2023… so glad I put 96 GB of RAM into it, despite several people asking me why the fuck I need so much RAM…
AS long AS you dont plan on selling your Ram I would still ask why you need so much RAM (if youre not running a lot if AI locally)
I installed 64GB when I built my current rig five years ago, because I do (or, did) graphic design for a living and Photoshop will use all the RAM you can throw at it. I routinely worked on files in the 10GB size range, and sometimes larger. The RAM makes a big difference in how long filters take to render on such large image layers–from minutes, down to seconds.
I’m a software architect. I work with large amounts of data. And a sizeable RAM disk is generally useful for many purposes. And yes, I also run AI locally, though that’s what my RTX 4090 is for.
I really wanted to build an AI PC but just kept being busy and kept telling myself that since prices always drop that I’m just wasting my money by doing it.
Boy am I upset lately.
You don’t understand how many tabs I need open.
I’ll be the first to say “well done, you”. I only got 32 could’ve easily spulrged at least for 64.
Same here when I built mine early March last year. Hindsight is 20/20…
I mean I have 16 and 8 in graphics card, I have never used more than half my RAM gaming, maybe you don’t NEED that much RAM.
Theres far more demanding things than games
Oh, there can be all kinds of uses.
For example, I own an LTO tape drive. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get the IBM drivers to compile on my particular flavor of Linux, but I do have a dual boot system.
Now, Windows is a shitty, shitty OS that I only boot up when I really need to. It interferes with all kinds of stuff in ways I hate, for example - copying files. It just refuses to read large files in a continuous, reliable data stream without any interruptions from my SSD when backing them up to tape. This causes the LTO drive to slow down, speed up, rewind, which is not a good thing because it causes additional wear on the tape.
Fix: Create a large RAM drive, copy files to RAM drive, run backup with RAM drive as source.
Just throw that in a omv server, idk what drive you have but it should be supported, do whatever works for you though
IBM stopped their support for LTFS, unfortunately. Which I kinda want to use despite all the drawbacks. And well, the RAM disk workaround does the trick, so there’s not enough pain to compel me into investing more time into the issue.
Making games often makes it nice to have 32gb
I just played ow 2 yesterday and the game was taking 20gb of ram
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I’m kicking myself so hard right now. I went in and upgraded my PC when word of tarrifs were coming back in 2024 but decided to chill on ram because the prices were still low and I felt I had enough. I have 16gb of DDR5 and my rig feels like it’s chugging with newer software.
I should’ve bit the bullet and future proofed with a 64gb set up. My ass decided to buy a house instead 😮💨
Whoah! A house instead of RAM! /s
Dude 2 years ago I built my first PC in a minute and last year built one for wifey (was running a rx580, ddr3 ram and fx6300 that I was milking as long as I could, built my rig and wife used that one till she had me build a better one on ddr4 ram ryzen 5 and pcie 4.0 mobo etc) and didn’t think it was a great time to build because of prices being all over but now I’m just glad I didn’t wait any longer!
Yeah same! A year ago it was $120 for a 64GB kit of ddr4-4000. Now my same kit just broke the $800 barrier.
We’re in the late stages of the AI bubble.
God I hope so
To be clear, that doesn’t mean AI is going away. It just means no one is actually going to pay for AI models anymore because open-weight free models will be extremely cheap and powerful.
It also means that AI in places where it brings nothing and in many cases makes the product actually worse will disappear
How is anyone going to run those powerful models locally once the necessary hardware is unaffordable/unobtainable?
No one is paying for AI because no one wants it to begin with.
In this scenario, you have a number of these AI companies contributing to the hoarding having their equipment handled through ‘asset recovery’, which means that at least companies that can drive 15kw to a system and water cooling will probably get them on the cheap and run it on their premise, or in a colo. Maybe some of those parts will trickle down, but admittedly a good chunk of the stuff is hard to accommodate in a residential setting.
Longer term, the hardware becomes obtainable as supply chains re-calibrate back to identcal or more close solutions. Ten years ago, a datacenter GPU was likely to be same hardware as consumer, but with a different thermal solution, firmware, and the video ports unpopulated. The AI rush has made them shift to exotic packaging so they can have absurdly unreasonable wattage in small places that doesn’t work in home settings. I anticipate a swing back that way eventually.
I really hope so but I can’t help but to think that they are going to drag it for as long as possible, because no matter how bad the situation is for the common folk, they are still going to make a profit off of it.
The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.
Note that the mantra doesn’t say the market can stay irrational, it’s just a warning that if you are predicting when irrational failure will produce the expected results, you can be in for a bad time. So if someone is thinking about shorting a bunch of the heaviest bubble stocks and expecting to win, well, they can get screwed as the bubble sustains long enough to screw them and then pop.
32GB of DDR4 3200Mhz cost me $115 in October, now the listing is out of stock and says $392. 240% increase.
